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2009-08-27 ( 10 edited messages )

# Re: C: penis plug urethral play
# Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
# C: collared DOMestic old timer AtcherServis
# Re: C: Dominatrix Leslie
# Re: C: boy - you're really in for it now
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Re: C: penis plug urethral play
Date: 21 Aug 2009 18:25:37 -0000
From: Sensual Femdom


In general, penis plugs are safer than urethral sounds. That is
because sounds descend much farther down the urethra (closer to
the bladder). Also, the sounds have some weight to them. I
wouldn't say they are heavy, but they are solid. If not held the
entire time they can drop down too far. Many sounds, however,
have a ribbed area to prevent this.

Any time you engage in urethral play there is some risk of
infection. You must be careful to be safe! Sterilize the penis
plug (or sounds) prior to use. While boiling can eliminate most
of the bacteria, the only way to truly sterilize it is by using
a pressure cooker. Great instructions here:


When using your plug or sound, use lots and lots of lube. There
is no such thing as using too much lube! Put a good amount of
lube on the end of your penis, and coat your plug (or sound) in
it as well. A great lube is Surgilube, which is very thick as
well as sterile.

After I use sounds on j I have him drink a glass or two of
cranberry juice. The acidity in the juice helps prevent the
bacteria from growing in the bladder.

Regarding your wife's comfort level, with any luck that will
grow in time. Using sounds and plugs is something that is not
for everyone, but I have grown to love the control I have over j
during our urethral play.

Feel free to contact me through my blog - click on my profile.
You can email me through it.

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Re: C: penis plug urethral play
Date: 21 Aug 2009 19:40:09 -0000
From: Dale

I have used urethral inserts for many years without problems. I
have plugs, sounds, catheters, and other devices designed for
such play... and advise anyone to never use anything not
designed for such activity.

Stretching a urethral opening is not the same as stretching an
anus... the urethral opening is NOT a sphincter... it is merely
an opening. It must be stretched VERY slowly over a long time or
it will tear (no fun). However, the urethra itself (the tube
inside the penis) is very stretchy and will handle much larger
sizes than the opening.

I rarely use a sterile lube. For a long time I did, but after a
while just started using saliva. I know all the caveats about
infections, etc., but the simple fact is... the urethra pretty
much clears itself out. As long as you are healthy and have good
oral hygiene, it's likely you won't have a problem. After all,
when you're sucked off, a saliva-filled mouth is right there,

My wife enjoys doing this to me, too. While she doesn't like it
done to her, she does like to insert sounds and plugs in me;
likes "fucking" my cock with them; likes sucking me off while my
dick is filled this way; and likes the visual and mental
stimulation of the play.

Bleeding could be caused from too-rough action at first, but
careful regular play will toughen up the urethra. I am quite
capable of jerking off with sounds or plugs in my cock and the
feeling is wonderful. I especially enjoy a deep sound, one that
is into my prostate, as the stimulation there is incredible and
the resultant orgasm is very intense.

Sometimes, she will use a quite large plug - big enough to
prevent the escape of the ejaculate - and "trap" the cum
inside... very erotic, though slightly painful (which is the
point, no?)

The cock, balls, and urethra can all take far more "abuse" than
we expect... as long as it is carefully administered. Cock
slapping, ball punching, dick fucking... pinching, twisting,
tying... they will take them all and smile the whole time!

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Re: C: penis plug urethral play
Date: 21 Aug 2009 21:09:46 -0000
From: d_brenn

Urine itself is sterile, and even highly nutritious. We consider
it waste, but some cultures bathe in it as an antiseptic, or
even drink it. Trapped urine should not cause infection. But do
drink plenty of fluids and keep it moving.

A UTI (urinary tract infection) could only be caused by
introducing bacteria into the tract, either by an insufficiently
sterilized toy, or by contact of the toy with bacteria near the
opening of the penis, just inside the opening, or outside on the
surface. So clean that penis before playing, and rinse out the
opening a bit.

The bleeding you experienced from use of the cotton swab (ouch!)
was likely the cotton's abrasion of the sensitive tissues of the
urethra. These tissues are designed for contact only with
liquids! But if you use a smooth insertable, such as a sound or
a plug which doesn't stretch too much, you should not have much
of this problem.

If there is a drop of blood or two, don't be too alarmed, it
likely just means you've abraded some tissue a little too much.
Allow some time for it to heal and try to be gentler next time.
A small amount of pink mucus is likely to be expected,
especially if you penetrate into the bladder with the urethral
sound. (Be extremely careful and slow if you go that deep.)

Since you are introducing objects from the outside into the
body, and disturbing cell membranes in the process, there is a
risk of infection. After any urethral play, drink plenty of
liquid so that you'll urinate heavily to flush out that tract
with good sterile urine. Cranberry juice and such are excellent
for urinary health.

Try not to use petroleum-based lubricants such as vaseline or
bacitracin. They are better than nothing, but are really meant
for external use. When used internally, they will stick to your
innards and not flush out quickly enough to be consistent with
good health.

Do not hesitate to see a doctor if there is any sign of a
Urinary Tract Infection, since these can be very dangerous.
Certain antibiotics such as doxycycline are especially good for
UTI's since they concentrate in the urine.

Be aware that it is very unusual for a man to contract a UTI
without engaging in something like anal sex, or being
catheterized in the hospital, or engaging in urethral play.

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 26 Aug 2009 17:42:52 -0000
From: kink marshall

Back in the mid eighties, there was a Mistress Nathalie, I
believe was her name..., who published a 300 page or so Slave
handbook. It was a 8 1/2' x 11" paper back. She and a few of her
female friend had husband slaves.

Mistress Nathalie put together this manual that included
pictures, examples, games and contests they played, etc. It was
not a high quality manual (as an example, the pictures were not
high quality), but the contents were awesome.

I believe they were from Michigan or Wisconsin. Does anyone
remember this publication, and better yet, does anyone have a
copy they would like to sell!

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
Date: 26 Aug 2009 17:50:26 -0000
From: kink marshall

I think we have a good thing started here, with the games and
contests. Another contest I thought of which might be similar to
Lauren5pnts spear throw, is to have all the slaves line up in a
row on their knees, and be made to jerk off.

There would be two losers, the one who came too fast and the one
who took too long. The perfect scenario would be if there were
only two contestants.

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Re: C: Fem Dom games and contests couples and bdsm groups
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:29:00 +0100


kink marshall wrote:

>There would be two losers, the one who came too fast and the
>one who took too long.

Excellent game and lots of fun could be had with variations of
it. I always think it's best if men are made to "pay for their
pleasure" with corporal punishment. So, long before the game
started, I'd like to have established what the punishment each
slave feared the most was.

Of course I'd then be able to ensure they knew they would get it
for failure when the game started. Otherwise, if he was a pain
slut, he might rush to be the one who came first so as to try
and get two treats. Although it's unlikely to be a problem as
it's been my experience that men rarely enjoy corporal
punishment immediately after ejaculation.

Also I'd lecture them on the importance of "letting go" of their
cocks the very instant such an order is given, and that the
Mistresses would use their riding crops on the balls for the
slowest to let go. (you'll see why later)

>The perfect scenario would be if there were only two

Even better, at least I think it would be a lot more amusing to
watch, would be three contestants. As one or all of them would
likely work out that all they had to do was wait for the first
one to fail and then rush to a finish to be "home and dry"
(excuse the pun).

They would all be trying their hardest not to be first, and no
sooner than one of them is being punished for being the loser,
the other two are already rushing to try and ejaculate before
each other.

The supervision of several Mistresses would be essential if
punishment is going to be administered to one while the other
two are still playing. Either that or the two remaining would
have to be instructed to "let go" and wait until the punishment
of the first is over and done with.

When the game resumes, imagine the frustration of the one who
thinks he is "coming" second if, just as his ejaculation started
to boil over, he is told to "let go". (men do seem to hate
having to let go at that critical moment :-)

He could then be informed that the enforced "letting go during
climax" is reserved for men who are "too clever by half". He
might then wish he'd been brave enough to be first which would
have allowed him to have, and pay for, a more fulfilling spurt.
Making him let go should be enforced by slapping his hand away
with a riding crop.

Also, it is possible that the two who were remaining would
likely have been so worked up that they would both find it all
too easy to be pretty quick. So even more frustrating would be
to find it was a draw, and as they were both last, they both get
the punishment for being last as well as having endured the "let
go" treatment.

sincerely, Christine

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C: collared DOMestic old timer AtcherServis
From: PapaHertz
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:56:59 EDT

Hello from an old time member of DOMestic, as I recall it used
to be called.

I no sooner celebrated my 'collaring' by a Mistress I met on
DOMestic, who returned to 'claim' me after eight years away from
the BDSM scene, by giving her the correct addie to return to
this site than what do I see? Subbie games!

It is ALL I can do to service her twice a week without having
her read of all these 'demeaning', humiliating, degrading,

[don't get wrong ideas; 'service' is doing "whatever pleases
HER." Yes, there are some things she has me do that are sexual
in nature, not to be repeated here, T.Y. very much]

To make it worse, I've been negotiating to meet another
'couple', if that's the correct term, from LA whose Mistress is
very stern, I've been led to believe.

As I lay claim to being the oldest BDSM slave in SoCal [Southern
California,] a fact which my Mistress is proud to proclaim [she
is sensitive to my shortcomings due to my age, though I ask her
to please try whatever she'd like and I will code 'yellow' if I
have a problem,] I cannot see me competing in these salacious
games, thought up by perverts hard for me to believe occupy
places in the BDSM universe, however, I will try if asked by
Mistress and, who knows, I might surprise a few of you

[Please be advised ALL of the above about other members was
written 'tongue in cheek', a good resting place for a slave's
most valuable tool (LOL.) Also, I believe it's the LAST thing to
wear out on a man. (VEG).]

I am delighted to be back 'where I belong' and to be owned by
such a lovely lady. It took me long years to learn to say,
"Whatever pleases you, Mistress." We broke up years ago when I
was too ignorant to say those very words, which Mistress had
read in a book, and which she just wanted to hear me say.

I'd signed a contract giving her all those rights and I had my
'lawyer hat' on, one I've learned NOT to wear in any femdom's
presence. I learned the HARD way, by the way. But then I could
not understand why she didn't just accept the words in the
contract I'd drafted so carefully.

Last [do I hear sighs of relief?] Mistress found her copy of
DOMestic's CD on 'training a man' or whatever you call it. She
was about to lend it to me when I told her I'd prefer to be
surprised. [Really I feared losing sleep over some of the things
you advise a woman to do with her slave.]

In closing [this is REALLY it! Hear the trumpets?] I must say I
feel 20 years younger since Mistress took possession of me! And
I am convinced my ten years living a BDSM life has made me feel,
if not truly BE, 20 years younger than the 79 years of age I'll
have achieved this November.

Respectfully, S.A.M. also known as PapaHertz, though you may
recall me here as 'AtcherServis', not a nik, a promise!

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Re: C: Dominatrix Leslie
From: PapaHertz
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:35:43 EDT

Leslie Olsen wrote:

>I am a dominatrix. I have been into this since 2004. I'm
>excited to be a part of the group!

welcome Ms Leslie:

May I inquire if you reside in SoCal, now a hotbed of BDSM
activity? If not, where do you practice your domination, if I
may ask?

T Y Mistress
PapaHertz aka AtcherServis, not a NK, a promise

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Re: C: boy - you're really in for it now
From: PapaHertz
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:03:22 EDT

james wrote:

>because the program will be used by my Mistress, I soon
>relinquished it to her view. She was absolutely glued to the
>monitor for well over an hour. She then stood up and with a
>huge grin remarked "boy - you're really in for it now."

Dear James:

FWIW [for what it's worth,] my Mistress got the CD from Ms
Christine when she was first on DOMestic 8 years ago. She just
came back to BDSM life, looked me up, and now I'm collared to
her. She was going to lend me the CD, but I said I was afraid
I'd lose sleep worrying about what she'll try next. Hence, the
quote at the top of this email. I hope never to hear those words
from Mistress's lips.

james wrote:

>She is especially interested in understanding the aspects of
>the use of toilet training. I don't know what to think.

Speaking of toilet training, many women have large capacity
bladders. So if it's a question of taking her urine, about which
she wants to train you, I'd be careful to ask her to bottle it,
and feed it to you. I always made the statement, and have lived
to regret it, to a woman who proposed letting me have her Golden
Nectars, "I like to drink from the faucet."

Despite a wide funnel in my mouth which a lady used to evacuate,
or void, as the clinical statements go, the lady over-filled the
funnel and dribbled copious quantities of her 'golden wine' over
me. Fortunately, I was in the shower at the time. The lady
allowed me to shower off the excess. I confess I had a hard time
ingesting an entire funnel full into my mouth and then
swallowing it.

Fortunately, the lady was very clean. Her urine was tasteless,
and colorless. I've drunk a cup of urine, or two, from women who
are very salty and bitter. All in a day's slavery, I must say.

That said, imbibing anything from a Mistress who has taken you
in hand and captured you for her pleasure, can be a very
rewarding experience.

Another Mistress dubbed me T.P. so that I knew when she shouted
for T.P. I was to hurry to her wash room and go to my knees for
whatever Mistress's pleasure was.

One thing. I've seen innumerable movie clips where a woman will
first rub her anus against her male, then her vagina, asking him
to lick either or both. The health books all advise not to go to
the vagina after touching, licking, or otherwise 'mouthing' the
anus. There can be innumerable infectious matter in the anus,
which under no circumstances should be put next to, or worse,
into the vagina.

One way around this is to restrict, with Mistress's permission,
of course, anal play to the slave's nose, saving the lips and
mouth for cleaning or otherwise servicing the Mistress's vaginal
area. Clips are fun to look at, IMHO [in my humble opinion,] but
should never be taken as illustrating acceptable real practices
between a Mistress and her slave.

With that, I wish you luck, James, in your lady's endeavors to
give you toilet training. Try to look at it as but another way
in which to serve your Mistress, thereby indicating how much she
values your services. Works for me.

Atcherservis, not a NK, a promise! aka s.a.m.

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Re: C: collared DOMestic old timer AtcherServis
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:24:43 +0100


PapaHertz with lots of names wrote:

>DOMestic, as I recall it used to be called.

What do you mean? DOMestic is still called DOMestic, the list,
and now the blog, have always been called DOMestic, and we've no
plans on ever changing it.

I would address you by name, but it's hard to communicate with a
man with so many names. :-) Which of your own multiple names is
your preferred "moniker"?

>'collaring' by a Mistress I met on DOMestic, who returned to
>'claim' me after eight years away from the BDSM scene

Congratulations! May I be nosey and enquire whether you are now
living as a couple? Don't feel obliged to respond, just my

>by giving her the correct addie to return to this site

I note you had trouble finding the correct address before (back
in 2003) when you tried to use DOMestic dot com to find us. That
is a bank and has never been our domain, unfortunately.

Perhaps you were making the same mistake this time?

>I lay claim to being the oldest BDSM slave in SoCal [Southern
>California,] -snip- I am delighted to be back 'where I belong'
>and to be owned by such a lovely lady -snip- I feel 20 years
>younger -snip- than the 79 years of age I'll have achieved
>this November.

So perhaps a scorpio too? Glad to hear that life is treating you
so well. Do we have any bdsm'ers in SoCal who were born before
November 1930 I wonder?

Christine at Ms-Christine.com

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