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collared DOMestic old timer AtcherServis

From: PapaHertz
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:56:59 EDT


Hello from an old time member of DOMestic, as I recall it used
to be called.

I no sooner celebrated my 'collaring' by a Mistress I met on
DOMestic, who returned to 'claim' me after eight years away from
the BDSM scene, by giving her the correct addie to return to
this site than what do I see? Subbie games!

It is ALL I can do to service her twice a week without having
her read of all these 'demeaning', humiliating, degrading,
games!

[don't get wrong ideas; 'service' is doing "whatever pleases
HER." Yes, there are some things she has me do that are sexual
in nature, not to be repeated here, T.Y. very much]

To make it worse, I've been negotiating to meet another
'couple', if that's the correct term, from LA whose Mistress is
very stern, I've been led to believe.

As I lay claim to being the oldest BDSM slave in SoCal [Southern
California,] a fact which my Mistress is proud to proclaim [she
is sensitive to my shortcomings due to my age, though I ask her
to please try whatever she'd like and I will code 'yellow' if I
have a problem,] I cannot see me competing in these salacious
games, thought up by perverts hard for me to believe occupy
places in the BDSM universe, however, I will try if asked by
Mistress and, who knows, I might surprise a few of you
youngsters.

[Please be advised ALL of the above about other members was
written 'tongue in cheek', a good resting place for a slave's
most valuable tool (LOL.) Also, I believe it's the LAST thing to
wear out on a man. (VEG).]

I am delighted to be back 'where I belong' and to be owned by
such a lovely lady. It took me long years to learn to say,
"Whatever pleases you, Mistress." We broke up years ago when I
was too ignorant to say those very words, which Mistress had
read in a book, and which she just wanted to hear me say.

I'd signed a contract giving her all those rights and I had my
'lawyer hat' on, one I've learned NOT to wear in any femdom's
presence. I learned the HARD way, by the way. But then I could
not understand why she didn't just accept the words in the
contract I'd drafted so carefully.

Last [do I hear sighs of relief?] Mistress found her copy of
DOMestic's CD on 'training a man' or whatever you call it. She
was about to lend it to me when I told her I'd prefer to be
surprised. [Really I feared losing sleep over some of the things
you advise a woman to do with her slave.]

In closing [this is REALLY it! Hear the trumpets?] I must say I
feel 20 years younger since Mistress took possession of me! And
I am convinced my ten years living a BDSM life has made me feel,
if not truly BE, 20 years younger than the 79 years of age I'll
have achieved this November.

Respectfully, S.A.M. also known as PapaHertz, though you may
recall me here as 'AtcherServis', not a nik, a promise!

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Hello,

PapaHertz with lots of names wrote:

>DOMestic, as I recall it used to be called.

What do you mean? DOMestic is still called DOMestic, the list,
and now the blog, have always been called DOMestic, and we've no
plans on ever changing it.

I would address you by name, but it's hard to communicate with a
man with so many names. :-) Which of your own multiple names is
your preferred "moniker"?

>'collaring' by a Mistress I met on DOMestic, who returned to
>'claim' me after eight years away from the BDSM scene

Congratulations! May I be nosey and enquire whether you are now
living as a couple? Don't feel obliged to respond, just my
curiosity.

>by giving her the correct addie to return to this site

I note you had trouble finding the correct address before (back
in 2003) when you tried to use DOMestic dot com to find us. That
is a bank and has never been our domain, unfortunately.

Perhaps you were making the same mistake this time?

>I lay claim to being the oldest BDSM slave in SoCal [Southern
>California,] -snip- I am delighted to be back 'where I belong'
>and to be owned by such a lovely lady -snip- I feel 20 years
>younger -snip- than the 79 years of age I'll have achieved
>this November.

So perhaps a scorpio too? Glad to hear that life is treating you
so well. Do we have any bdsm'ers in SoCal who were born before
November 1930 I wonder?

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com

Renew or get your DOMestic password at
http://www.mschristine.com/domsub4.shtml



   

Christine wrote:

>I would address you by name, but it's hard to communicate with
>a man with so many names. :-) Which of your own multiple names
>is your preferred "moniker"?

Thank you, Ms Christine:

I am a DOMestic member as PapaHertz [sorry I commented about a
change of name; I saw it in print as 'domestic' (lower case)
once or twice; glad to know it was a misprint].

I am also known far and wide, mostly 'wide' I'm sad to say, in
these parts [SoCal from Ventura to the Mexico border] as
PapaHertz. Indeed, online once asked if I charged less to rent
midweek, just like the car rental companies do. I then had the
temerity to say, "yes, my prices are very reasonable midweek."

Later I actually met the lady, husband in tow, at a then popular
dungeon just south of Hollywood, in LA. She did not seek to rent
me; I was uncollared at the time anyway, but I was thoroughly
intimidated when I saw her later in the evening walking
commandingly around the dungeon, a large, VERY large strapon
strapped firmly to her hips. [I almost said 'ample' in
description of the lady's midsection, but my luck, my current
owner would likely meet the lady at a party next week, and offer
me to her (Wishful thinking? NOT!)]


>Congratulations! May I be nosey and enquire whether you are
>now living as a couple? Don't feel obliged to respond, just my
>curiosity.


No, Ms Christine, it is devoutly to be wished! I do have a
"Queendom" set up for her in a small townhouse I own, here in
SoCal, which she visits twice a week. We are presently
negotiating for her to also take me to a local dungeon weekly so
she can practice her prodomme skills with me as a client.

Mistress is planning to 'go pro' starting with the New Year, and
though she successfully prodommed a couple of 'clients'
previously, she wants to be very proficient before advertising
her services now. We discussed that she not only takes liberties
with me much more than she would with a 'client', but also I've
proven, to her, so much more truly, an obedient 'slave' now than
I was during our first attempts to 'couple,' she has a hard time
assuming an angry demeanor, or a demeaning ownership posture, so
much sought by paying clients of prodommes, I have found.

Please don't envision the wrong thing from that word: 'couple.'
It signifies solely her command over me, treating my body as her
property, to be 'coupled' only in such ways as she desires,
(think clothespins to my nips and privates) and only if or when
she desires.

I should add I am a 'true' switch; proud I am able to be a
quality servant in Mistress's eyes after having owned a femme
slave of my own for almost three years, in the same quarters in
my home.


>you had trouble finding the correct address before (back in
>2003) when you tried to use DOMestic dot com to find us. That
>is a bank and has never been our domain, unfortunately.
>Perhaps you were making the same mistake this time?

No, Ms Christine, my computer skills have increased almost as
much as my submissive skills in the interim. This time I merely
copied your addie from one of your digests.

That said, both Mistress and I have pondered how to get the
appropriate Portuguese currency, or Eurodollars, to subscribe,
moreover to support, your endeavors, which worked before to
bring Mistress and I together. Please let us know. It seems to
me I had to get a U.S. Postal Money Order in equivalent dollars
plus affix correct U.S, postage to mail money to your mail
address in Portugal last time I subscribed.

I'd be honored to again subscribe, and as always, show
appreciation for your many personal replies, questions, and
comments to all of us who give tribute to your wonderful
endeavors.


>So perhaps a scorpio too?


Quite correct, Ms Christine. In fact, in my youth, I often
invited young ladies to 'feel' my sting, rhetorically of course
[NOT!] Needless to say I had a less than desired affirmative
response from the ladies of the day :-(


>Glad to hear that life is treating you so well. Do we have any
>bdsm'ers in SoCal who were born before November 1930 I wonder?


Thank you so much Ms Christine for posing that question. I've
often wondered if I am really the oldest practitioner in this
area but never had a proper forum to find out.

Until I hear from you again, Ms Christine, I remain

Your humble servant, Papa Hertz aka s.a.m.



   

Hello PapaHertz,

you wrote:

>I saw it in print as 'domestic' (lower case) once or twice;
>glad to know it was a misprint]


Not so much a misprint as an irritant on the Yahoogroups
version. On Topica we show as DOMestic. But with Yahoogroups we
could not have anything but lower case names when the group was
formed. It may have changed since and I have now managed to
change the subject line of the digest message to keep an old
timer happy. But if you visit the Yahoogroups site we still show
there in lower case.

DOMestic is delivered by multiple methods, and Yahoogroups is
just one of many.


>both Mistress and I have pondered how to get the appropriate
>Portuguese currency, or Eurodollars, to subscribe, moreover to
>support, your endeavors


As long as your card is not a Mastercard, it's much simpler to
use any other major card to support us, and it's all in US
currency at:-

http://www.mschristine.com/domsub4.shtml#card

We accept lots of cards, but Mastercard, like PayPal are unfair
to folk outside of the USA.

It is against Paypal rules for non USA based merchants to use
their systems for adult material of any kind. (see link below)

Paypal rules

I quote from the first paragraph:-

>PayPal also currently does not allow transactions for any
>sexually oriented physical or digital goods by non-U.S.
>residents.

Currently Mastercard in Europe are not processing for what they
define as "adult internet merchants" - although some businesses
are using non internet accounts to get adult orders processed,
they will be in breach of the rules and we do not wish to take
the risk of breaching Mastercard rules on this.

If you don't have a card we can take, then we can of course
accept your cheque by normal postal mail. (or cash only by
registered mail if you prefer)

So you can just send a personal cheque in US currency to...


Christine Stevenson,
Apartado 468
2504-914 Caldas da Rainha
Portugal


>It seems to me I had to get a U.S. Postal Money Order in
>equivalent dollars plus affix correct U.S, postage to mail
>money to your mail address in Portugal last time I subscribed.


As our prices have always been quoted in US currency it's only
folk elsewhere who need an "equivalent" (link provided on the
web) and as we've always accepted US personal cheques or cash,
you must have been over complicating matters needlessly. But
yes, if you can't use a card then it does require you to lick a
stamp (60 cents I think?) and stick it on an envelope with a
check inside.


>I'd be honored to again subscribe

We'd be equally honoured if you wish to support us.

>I've often wondered if I am really the oldest practitioner in
>this area but never had a proper forum to find out.

Folk are welcome to post to this thread and give their age and
location if they want to claim the title of the oldest bdsm'er
in any location. Aliases are accepted on the blog, and no email
addresses are displayed.

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com

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