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Re: C: Chastity, foot worship and the feeling of being gelded
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:51:41 -0500
From: Super A


slaveboy wrote:

>how long is the longest time anyone has gone w/o cumming?


I have personally gone 30 and 45 days several times with my
personal best being 105 days. But I know many guys who have
literally gone months and a couple who have several years under
their 'belts'.

Super A


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Re: C: Chastity, foot worship and the feeling of being gelded
From: jboy
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:20:31 -0300


slaveboy wrote:

>She got me a new cage recently and things took a very different
>turn after that. It's custom sized


hello slaveboy

perhaps I am blind (i did just wake up) but I can't for the life
of me see in your post what design your new cage is? we are
awaiting a new one that was custom made by maturemetal

more to follow when it arrives

jboy


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C: house work punishments etc
Date: 26 Jul 2009 03:12:30 -0000
From: sissy maid wendy


dear DOMestic Bdsm and Female Domination

my Mistress whom i regularly serve and have for some years would
like to place a brief account of my work in her house,
punishments etc, these maybe between a few lines and page or
two. we have discussed it and believe the time is right for me
to post these special occasions on the web - is this possible?

sissy maid wendy property of Madam Ayla


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Re: C: house work punishments etc
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:35:30 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com


Hello,

sissy maid wendy wrote:

>is this possible?

Yes of course. That's part of what we do on DOMestic.

Either post your account in the same way you posted your enquiry
or send in your post by email as we describe at:-

http://u4ds.com/submit_your_story_article.shtml

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com


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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: 26 Jul 2009 12:52:23 -0000
From: Jennie


Make him wear a pretty bra with a matching open crotch panty so
that his little penis is on show. Some girly perfume would
improve the effect. Spray some on the tip of his penis, as
perfume stings the penis.


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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:51:45 -0400
From: M


vince wrote:

>I am wondering where the event is going to be


Vince, you asked the location of the outdoor SM event that I
wrote about. It is held about one hour from Baltimore in
September and June of each year. It is like no other BDSM event!
Anything goes. Most people go with partners and there are more
male doms than female doms but it is all good.

darkodyssey.com/summercamp/home.html

M


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Re: C: keeping sub hubby nude - chastity a start?
Date: 26 Jul 2009 01:31:39 -0000
From: honu


Ashley wrote:

>any suggestions on making my sub hubby stay nude at home?


May I suggest, that to get him used to being naked full time,
try exposing him in front of your friends.

As a slave I was also shy, but when my master's friends and
sister in law were present, I was forced to remain naked, I was
able overcome my shyness. Master, like you, prefers/demands that
I be naked to help remind me I am her slave, and to let everyone
else know my status.

In the past year I have been able to overcome most of my shyness
and her friends seem to enjoy watching me serve my master.
Honestly I am able to focus a lot better on serving my master,
when I am not worrying about my clothing and my appearance.

Best regards,
A Naked Slave


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Re: C: Slave Contract
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:43:03 -0000
From: "Jo Robinson"


"MaitresseX" wrote:

>Does anyone on this list have experience with a slave
>contract?

I have. I will try and fish out a copy in the next few days for
you.

Joro.


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C: how to fuck hubby with a strap-on
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:43:57 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com


You'll see and hear a lot of fantasy stuff on the 'net, some of
it will be nonsense, and some may be the opposite of what is
safe!

If you indulge in anal play, always make sure the dildo, plug,
finger or cock is clean. Always use a condom on cock or dildo
and a rubber glove on fingers, and always use lots of lubricant.
You can never have too much lubricant.

If you are going to have him suck it, and then fuck him with it,
then change condoms as you change orifices. The bacteria in his
anus are not meant for his mouth, and the bacteria in his mouth
are not meant for the anus. Wiping the dildo clean is not
enough.

You can surreptitiously change the condom while you are out of
sight behind him, which will allow you to "mind fuck" him by
telling him to "lick and suck it clean" when in fact the condom
he is licking and sucking is brand new and already clean.

Of course making him suck it beforehand is fun, "Get my dick wet
and ready for you slut!"

So have him suck the dildo before you put the condom on it, and
take the condom off it before you have him lick it clean
afterwards. If he's blindfolded so much the better for the
potential mind games.

I like David wearing a hood with eye slits that I can cover and
remove thus allowing me to control what he sees and when. I like
him to the see the strap on in place over my vulva, and looking
powerful and threatening. The hood restricts his hearing all the
time so he can't tell whether I'm opening a condom packet, or
getting out another rubber glove from the pack of disposables in
my dressing table.

For entering the anus use a water based silicone type lube, and
do not use hand creams or other products which were not designed
for internal use and may cause irritation. A fairly good rule
for folk who don't have access to sex shops and specialist
lubricants is that if the pharmacist sells it for lubricating a
woman's vagina during sex, it should at least be safe for
internal use.

Ignore anyone who suggests you start out by going all the way in
with a ten-incher. Obviously males differ in size, and a newbie
may not be ready for ten inches the first time, and don't take
such ideas away from watching fantasy videos. Start out small,
and if he is into bigger and bigger stretching you can work up
to larger ones later.

A flesh and blood cock feels when it is encountering resistance,
and the user should adapt their technique accordingly. It's
harder to do that with a dildo, so small in size, straight, and
gentle in use is the best rule for beginners.

Do not take any notice of people who suggest using lubricants
with brand names that suggest they ease pain during penetration.
Pain is a signal to stop or change what you are doing, so it is
a very bad idea to hide or mask pain.

You cannot insert a dildo in your male slut's anus and expect
him to behave as if he were born to it... it usually takes a bit
of getting used to. It also helps if he is psychologically
prepared.

I'll give David an order like:-

"I want you wet and ready for a good fucking tonight slut! And
you'll be doing some cock sucking first!"

This lets David know I want him to wash himself internally by
inserting a soapy finger with warm water over a bidet before
such an evening. He also knows to pre-lubricate himself, which
gets him good and ready for play later.

Washing helps a male slut be totally relaxed about "letting go"
as he will feel more confident that he is not "letting go" of
anything but his anal sphincter muscle.

Always be sure he has had a bowel movement before attempting
anal penetration. If you have the equipment, then giving him an
enema before anal play cleans him out and can make the whole
business nicer. And medical role-play type fantasies can be
incorporated into your evening.

I sometimes order him to wear a butt plug during the day so as
to accustom himself to what is going to happen later.

"Put that in, I'm going to fuck you later and I want you to be
reminded of that as you work today."

For such periods, I have him use a very small butt plug, not
much bigger than his thumb. It is secured to an external belt to
avoid it getting sucked up inside. (Which could make it hard to
retrieve!) Be sure that any butt plug or dildo that is inserted
in his anus has a wide base that will stop it entering fully if
it became disconnected from it's belt. This will save you from
having to go to the hospital!

Being ordered to wear a small plug all day as a reminder of what
is going to be 'done' to him in the evening is exciting while at
the same time helps gets him mentally and physically prepared
for the intrusion of the dildo later on.

When you have your slut bent over the end of the bed, or
kneeling upon it, start with your own fingers, using lots of
lubricant. Ease one finger into his anus, and when that is
comfortably accepted, try two fingers, and perhaps three. When
you think he is ready to try a dildo, make sure you lubricate
the inside of his anal cavity using your gloved fingers, and
apply lube to the dildo too. Ease it in gently.

If it hurts him, stop or slow down but do not immediately or
suddenly withdraw or the plug/dildo could cause fissuring as his
anus contracts around it defensively. Sudden intense anal pain
is sometimes caused by such involuntary constriction. Have him
breathe deeply for up to a minute until he wants to continue.
Give him a choice to stop altogether, because the pain could
signal a more serious problem.

I prefer to say something encoded like:-

"Are you ready for me to fuck you harder now slut, or will I
have to get my pleasure from spanking you instead."

This allows him to respond with something like:-

"Please be gentle with me Mistress"

if he can go on, or:-

"I'm sorry Mistress, please don't spank me too hard," if he
wants to signal that he thinks it safer to stop.

You might prefer instead to encourage him to signal when he is
ready to start again and have him push back towards you when he
is ready:-

"Show me how much you want it slut!"

A submissive shouldn't be seen to "top from the bottom" by
controlling what is done to him. But a male slut should be
responsible for his own safety, and should communicate how he
can make it easier for his Mistress to fuck him. So your
roleplay dialogue should allow for him to adjust his position.

For his safety you have to work out a method for him to control
the angle and rate of penetration. Only he knows if it feels
right and whether adjustment of his position or a breather is
required.

"Mistress, can I have a little rest please, then maybe I could
make it easier for you to fuck me if I lay on my side."

The smaller a dildo is, the less likely to cause irritation and
the more pleasure, especially for someone new to anal play. Now
David is experienced, and only after he is well and truly
relaxed into the process, I find a smaller five inch dildo
allows me to thrust powerfully without fear of doing damage.

If you are sure that your 'male slut' is both willing and
relaxed but he is still experiencing internal pain I would have
him see a doctor before doing any more anal play. He may have
haemorrhoids, or something more serious like a fissure or
polyps.

If he does have any health problems in that area I would avoid
inserting things without a doctors advice. Prostate massage is a
medical thing, not just a bdsm thing, so you should have no
problems or embarrassment in asking your doctor whether regular
prostate massage is a good thing in such a case.

For those with prostate problems, there are even devices sold,
resembling a curved finger, specifically for reaching the
prostate to massage it. Some folk advise using this if over 50
anyway. But although such a curved device might be suitable for
prostate massage, a curved dildo is not a good idea at all,
because you do not want to be pushing against the walls of the
anal canal when thrusting. You could cause a serious tear in the
anal canal.

If you ever see any blood during anal play, stop immediately and
withdraw slowly and gently. You should not see blood at all. But
he may have a haemorrhoid that he didn't realise was a problem.
A little blood from piles doesn't necessarily mean a serious
issue, but should cause you to stop anyway.

If he starts to bleed and the bleeding will not stop then get
medical attention immediately because it's hazardous for anal
bacteria to get into the blood-stream.

There are many posts regarding "Dildo play - size and safety" on
the member's web site. A good place to start is at:-

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/a_cbtass.htm

and then move on to

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/a_cbtas2.htm

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

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C: teaching hubby to take cock?
From: Ashley
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:12:03 EDT


hello,

thank you for all for the tips on keeping sub hubby nude and
chastity.

i have another question that he is unaware of yet... but soon
will be... what are your suggestions on teaching him to take
cock. like a good hubby?

i'm enjoying the way things are turning out as far as the nude
thing goes. he's really starting to learn his place with me..
and is being very obedient since i've locked him up. but, like i
said, he doesn't know this yet, but he will be my cocksucker and
fucker, and looking for ideas and suggestions..

thank you
Ashley


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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:24:33 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com


Hello,

Ashley wrote:

>what are your suggestions on teaching him to take cock. like a
>good hubby?

Not sure whether you mean a flesh and blood male cock, or
whether you mean teaching him to take female "cock" - as in a
dildo?

For my opinions on safe ways of using a dildo, fingers and butt
plugs on your male slut, please see my post earlier today at:

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/how_to_fuck_hubby_with_a_strap.shtml

It is a good idea to read that post anyway for safety, and if
you intend for him to take a male cock then there is no harm in
working him up to it by getting him used to taking a female one
first.

As psychological preparation, it will probably get him in the
right frame of mind if you tell him things like:-

"When you've learned how to suck me and take my dildo, I'll
enjoy watching you perform on my men friends before they fuck
you."

In my experience men are motivated by what pleases a woman, and
they like nothing more than thinking they are exciting you. So
telling him it will turn you on to fuck him and watch him being
fucked will likely excite him.

>he doesn't know this yet, but he will be my cocksucker and
>fucker, and looking for ideas and suggestions..

If my post referred above doesn't cover it, then perhaps you'd
let us know what kind of cock-sucking and fucking you have in
mind for him.

sincerely,
Christine

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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
Date: 26 Jul 2009 12:47:54 -0000
From: Jennie


Ashley wrote:

>what are your suggestions on teaching him to take
>cock. like a good hubby?


Undertake the following procedure nightly for at least one hour.
As the weeks pass increase the timings because when the husband
takes cock from another male he will have to remain in place for
up to fifteen minutes.

Get hold of a hard, straight dildo (not a gelatin filled one and
not a curved one) about three quarters of an inch diameter and
about ten inches long. You will also need absorbent kitchen
paper, rubber gloves and a bottle of lotion, liquid soap or
other lubricant. As in all training processes, a paddle or
school cane is essential.

Instruct the husband to go to the toilet and do a number two,
then to wipe and wash his bottom thoroughly and shave the
perianal hair. Examine the husband's bottom to check that it is
clean and properly shaven. If he has not done it properly,
paddle his buttocks hard and insist that he do it properly. Do
not clean or shave him yourself

Give the husband a roll of kitchen paper and a waste bin. Put
the rubber gloves on. Put the husband into either a squatting
position or a bent over position. Forbid the husband to touch
the dildo until you tell him to touch it. If he demurs or
obstructs the training process, use the paddle with strength.
Tie him into position over a heavy desk if you need to.

Grease the dildo with lotion or hand cream, put a blob of lotion
on his anus, then keep the husband in place and gently but
firmly push the dildo up his bottom as far until only the base
of it can be seen. The anal canal is parallel to the spine and
unless you use too much force the dildo will guide itself along
the canal without hurting or causing any damage. If the husband
feels pain he must bend further forward, which will straighten
his anal canal. Do not stop inserting the dildo.

Hold the dildo in his bottom for twenty seconds then allow his
body to expel it. As the dildo emerges, instruct the husband to
take hold of the dildo, wipe the brown stuff off it, wipe his
bottom clean, and return the dildo to you. Inspect his bottom
and the dildo.

Hold the dildo at the husband's mouth and insist that he lick
and kiss it. Then push the dildo into the husband's mouth until
he is choking on it. Hold it in place for a full minute. The
husband must close his lips around the dildo and kiss it.

Then grease the dildo again and repeat the process, lengthening
the times appropriately.

Towards the end of the training process ask the male who is
going to be inserting into the husband's bottom to hold the
dildo.


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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:19:36 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com


Hello,

While I liked the focus on gradually training hubby to accept
"cock" over a prolonged period as expressed in Jennie's post,
there are a few details I will have to disagree on.

Jennie wrote:

>a hard, straight dildo (not a gelatin filled one and not a
>curved one)

I agree with Jennie, these are important points, you don't want
the dildo to be curved, and neither do you want it to flop
around and go in directions that you can't control. You don't
want to be thrusting against the walls of the anal canal where
you can do serious damage.

You want it to slide smoothly along the canal unimpeded. So a
dildo that will not bend easily, not too thick/wide, and is not
sharp in any way is a good idea. Rigid and unbending, but it
doesn't have to be too hard.

>about three quarters of an inch diameter and about ten inches
>long.

I'll have to disagree with the focus on length unless you intend
to hold quite a bit of it in your hand, when you may be gripping
several inches or more, so in that case a ten inch one may mean
you are only inserting five or six inches.

But if you are going to strap on a dildo and thrust into him
vigorously, then focusing on getting ten inches up inside him is
not a good idea for a beginner.

All of the pleasurable areas are within the reach of a female
finger, so depending on how much external buttock flesh he has
which will be resisting your thrusts, you may want to think in
terms of something closer to five or six inches.

Male bodies differ and some may have a lot of buttock flesh in
the way of a good pelvic thrust with a strap-on and this may
mean you'll want a longer one.

>a bottle of lotion, liquid soap or other lubricant

The kind of liquid soap most households have around is not a
good idea for internal use as a lubricant.

As I say in my other post on this topic today, for entering the
anus use a water based lubricant, and do not use hand creams or
other products which were not designed for internal use and
which may cause irritation.

A fairly good rule for folk who don't have access to shops which
sell specialist lubricants is that if the pharmacist sells it
for lubricating a woman's vagina during intercourse, it should
at least be safe for internal use.

>As in all training processes, a paddle or school cane is
>essential.

This I like, especially as it's good to offer an alternative
training program if internal anal pain requires one to stop the
anal training.

A cane can encourage some enthusiasm for "cock sucking".

>Instruct the husband to go to the toilet and do a number two,
>then to wipe and wash his bottom thoroughly

I agree with this and would go further and encourage a bit of
internal washing too.

>and shave the perianal hair.

An excellent idea, I do find men's anal hair to be both messy
and unattractive. What do the men folk use for shaving around
their own anus, an electric razor perhaps? I imagine an ordinary
one is hard to use out of sight down there?

>Grease the dildo with lotion or hand cream

Hand creams are not a good idea. Only use a product designed for
internal use.

>put a blob of lotion on his anus

More than a blob I'd say. I'd use my finger in a rubber glove
and massage quite a few blobs up inside him until it feels like
a wet blancmange in there. And I'd cane him if my finger came
out looking too messy. That encourages him to take more care on
the internal washing next time.

>If the husband feels pain he must bend further forward, which
>will straighten his anal canal.

Adjusting his position for ease of entry is essential.

>Do not stop inserting the dildo.

I strongly disagree. Definitely stop inserting if he feels pain.
But don't immediately or suddenly withdraw. Wait a while for the
pain to ease. Then ensure it is safe to proceed as I explain in
my post here:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/how_to_fuck_hubby_with_a_strap.shtml

>Hold the dildo in his bottom for twenty seconds then allow his
>body to expel it.

This does sound like a good training method to get him
accustomed to it. Also allowing his body to expel it slowly and
naturally is better than withdrawing against any resistance his
anal constriction might cause. Plenty of lube makes for a lot
easier withdrawal.

>As the dildo emerges, instruct the husband to take hold of the
>dildo, wipe the brown stuff off it, wipe his bottom clean, and
>return the dildo to you. Inspect his bottom and the dildo.

All of which is fine, except I'd also have a condom on the dildo
which can then immediately be removed, wrapped in the tissue,
and dropped in the bin.

>Hold the dildo at the husband's mouth and insist that he lick
>and kiss it.

Not unless it was wrapped in a condom and the condom has now
been removed. It is not wise to needlessly risk transferring
anal bacteria to the mouth..

If you want him to believe he is kissing and licking the same
dildo, in the same state as was just removed, then just put a
new clean condom on it while out of his sight.

>Then push the dildo into the husband's mouth until he is
>choking on it. Hold it in place for a full minute. The husband
>must close his lips around the dildo and kiss it.

All fine except for the choking. Teach him to accept it fully
without choking. If he becomes accomplished at deep throat he'll
make a useful male slut to offer to your boyfriends.

>Then grease the dildo again and repeat the process,
>lengthening the times appropriately.

Now I'd of course advise that you put a fresh condom on the
dildo to start again.

For more on this topic see my post:-

"how to fuck hubby with a strap-on"

sincerely,
Christine

The Fem Dom Training Software.
Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.


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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:12:01 +0100
From: "David" at u4ds.com


Hello,

The mechanics and safety of anal play has been covered, so I'd
like to look at one of the fun and yet very safe aspects from
this male's perspective of the other element in Ashley's
question...

Ashley wrote:

>he doesn't know this yet, but he will be my cocksucker

The "cocksucker" element provides lots of humiliation potential,
and humiliation is one of my favourites, probably _the_
favourite aspect for me of Fem-Dom.

The training process itself provides plenty of opportunity for
roleplay that is highly arousing, for me anyway. Being told that
my Mistress wants to train me to take cock, both orally and
anally is exciting. Even if I don't really believe (in my heart
of hearts) that she intends to introduce another male into the
scenario in the way she implies.

I tend to suspend disbelief when excited, (you may call this
thinking with the small head) and there's something quite
exciting about seeing Mistress with a strap-on in position over
her sensual and feminine lingerie, a bulge ready to be unzipped
from her jeans, or revealed beneath her raised skirt.

Kneeling with my head buried in her vulva is one of my favourite
positions anyway, so the fact that I'm being "forced" to do so
is going to arouse me, even if it is for a rather different
reason - "cocksucking" or in this case dildo sucking.

In another context you can read in our video description for
"Brought to Heel" where Christine says:-

"When Mistress has men... in the house... and she brings them to
her bed, doggy must learn to be very quiet and not play with
himself under the bed. Now I can't risk doing this without
having a trial run. Just so that I can see that you know how to
behave yourself."

In that instance, while I was really on the floor pretending to
be a doggy and listening to Christine pleasure herself above, I
didn't really believe she intended to bring a man home, but my
doubt, and my imagination was enough to make it a very arousing
role-play.

It's precisely this kind of dialogue that excites me, even if
I'm unsure, or perhaps because there is always that doubt in my
mind.

So Mistress would only have to say something along the lines of
how much it would turn her on to see me suck a man's cock, and
that she wanted to train me to do it properly, for me to get
very excited by the idea of being forced to suck on her dildo.
Such is the effect of my thinking with the small head.

Christine wrote:

>if you intend for him to take a male cock then there is no harm
>in working him up to it by getting him used to taking a female
>one first.

And even if you don't intend to, there's a lot of fun in letting
him think you might.

Christine wrote:

>In my experience men are motivated by what pleases a woman, and
>they like nothing more than thinking they are exciting you

That's certainly true of me. There is nothing more exciting than
the idea that my Mistress is sexually turned on by dominating or
humiliating me. So the idea that watching me suck on her dildo
might excite her a bit, is going to make me want to do it.
Although I might also enjoy expressing a bit of reluctance, just
so I can feel her "force" me.

Ashley wrote:

>looking for ideas and suggestions..

My suggestion is to tease him in to it. Sow the seed. Mention
while in conversation how exciting it would be to see a man suck
cock and then let the seed grow for a while.

Then one day when you sit on his lap and let him spot the bulge
of a dildo. Or emerge into the living room with one pushing out
the front of a loose fitting negligee; he will not be so
surprised when you tell him why it's there and that you want to
see him suck on it.

Or simply sit on the sofa or an armchair and order, "come over
here cocksucker, on your knees and show me how it's done."

On the issue of condoms, shouldn't a "cocksucker" be trained in
the art of putting one on the dildo (or cock) before he sucks
it?

No need to hide the process of putting a condom on a dildo. Turn
it into an exciting mind fuck which lends weight to the idea you
are training him to do it for real, and train him to make a cock
safe.

"Mistress doesn't want you to take any risks with your health,
so you've got to learn how to make a cock safe before you suck
on it."

Hand him the condom.

"And you've got to learn how to keep the cock hard and excited,
you have to learn to play with it, and make putting the condom
on a sensual experience for the guy."

Plenty of excuses for spanking and further training if he gets
at all fumbly with the process. Teaching him to suck cock like a
'pro' could be a lot of fun.

"Now I have neutered you with your chastity belt, you are almost
like a girlie boy, so a 'real man' like my boyfriend will enjoy
having you suck on him."

When you move on to 'fucking' him with your dildo, then he could
also be taught by his Mistress how to play safe and put a condom
on the dildo before anal penetration, and how to remove it
afterwards, and if needs be put another one in place before the
cock goes into his mouth.

After this kind of mind fucking, you may find he becomes less
reluctant, and perhaps quite eager, to excite his Mistress and
do it for a "real man". And he'll also be reassured by the
knowledge that when he does, his Mistress will keep him safe.

sincerely,
David

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Re: P: dominant wife seeking couples with similar interests
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:51:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy


bob wrote:

>i am a submissive husband to an increasingly dominant wife. She
>desires devotion to Her and my chastity as lifestyle pursuits.
>We've been together more than six years, are monogamous and
>love each other very much. We live in Los Angeles.


Hi bob,

We are in L.A. How about emailing me and let's talk. We are
apparently much like you two, are very much in love and
monogamous. If the ladies have anything in common, maybe we can
meet at some point. If you have read my post (linked here) we
are very much into chastity. Hope to hear from you soon.

private emails always welcome
herslaveboy_2000@yahoo.com
email address info


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P: fag pig dog bitch - online or phone slave
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:41:12 -0000
From: "m" - starfox27588


Hello,

I'm starfox27588 - I am here on my knees begging anyone to take
this slave pig dog bitch as an online or phone slave. Do to me
as you will, I am a toy here for your fun. Take over my whole
life if you wish to.

You can humiliate me, or anything else you like, at home, at
work, or anywhere you wish. And I'll give you my phone number
too if you like.

If you would like to know more, email me at

wakefeildjr@gmail.com
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Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8
From: jboy
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:25:41 -0300


I noticed someone mentioning that their old software didn't
work... i had the same problem but thought it was due to a
scratch on the cd :( after formatting the 'puter it wasn't
working and we chucked it out.

when we got it i believe we had a different name/account here (i
can't for the life of me remember what our old handle was) any
chance of getting a replacement?

jboy


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Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:20:01 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com


Hello jboy,

We sent you email off list, but didn't hear back from you. You
may need to check your bulk email / spam folder / settings.

We don't need your "handle" as it was on DOMestic. We just need
details of the purchase which will have been in your real name I
presume? To send you the new version by email as a zip file, all
we need in private email to the support address is your name and
postal address as they were when you originally purchased.

I imagine your name is the same? And you can presumably recall
roughly where you were living?

The problems with your old CD wasn't a problem with the older
version of the software because the CD version should be
unaffected by the IE8 bug. That IE8 bug should only affect
software running from the hard drive if your CD settings are
typical.

The most likely cause of a problem with any home made CD, like
ours, is that your CD heads are dirty. Dirty heads affects the
reading of home made CDs before they affect factory made ones.
So your CD drive may appear to be operating normally, but the
performance may be degrading due to dirty heads.

A new CD will not fix that unless you first change the drive or
use a head cleaning disc. You can get those from most
supermarkets / office equipment stores etc for about $10

It could have been a badly scratched CD, but dirt is more
likely.

To send you a new CD, we need an order for the $10 shipping from
the same person as your original purchase. See:-

http://www.mschristine.com/both.shtml

for a link to pay the $10 shipping.

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

The Fem Dom Training Software.
Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.


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admin: YahooGroups membership bug
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:43:50 +0100
From: "Christine and David" at u4ds.com


Hello,

If anyone has in the last couple of weeks attempted to
subscribe, unsubscribe, or change any email settings for their
subscription for any YahooGroup larger than 350 members, those
changes will probably not take effect until early August when a
bug-fix is hopefully expected to have updated the "replicated
database system".

According to Yahoo, the current effects of the RepDB system bug
include:-

The member list will be out of date with new members not yet
appearing on the list, making it impossible for moderators to
change the settings (or remove) these members.

Members who are not showing up on the member list will also not
receive messages via email (although they can still read
messages on the web or post via email).

Members who have recently unsubscribed will continue to receive
messages from the group until the RepDB system is up to date.

Changes to email settings will not take effect.

Members who have been reactivated out of bouncing status will
still not get email.

For more details of why you may be having problems with any
Yahoogroup that you have joined (or a group you moderate) you
can read details of the bug on Yahoo's blog at:-

RepDB Bug Affecting Big Groups

As the problem is at Yahoogroups and not on our servers, there
is nothing we can do but add our apologies to those you can read
from Yahoogroups at the link above.

There is no doubt that some of you will be affected by this bug
because DOMestic and FEMdom_sex has three groups which send mail
out via Yahoogroups:-

domestic 10643 members
DOMesticMsChristine 159 members
FEMdom_sex 1836 members

That means perhaps twelve thousand people who in this is holiday
period may want to change their email settings on two of those
groups above will not be able to.

The two distribution methods on Topica are not affected:-

DOMesticBdsm 2472 members
FEMdom_sex 1490 members

The three original lists, the click list, the individual
messages list, and the original Mime digest list have another
thousand or so, and they are all sent out via our own mail
servers, which are also not affected.

So there are maybe five thousand DOMestic and FEMdom_sex folk
who are not affected.

Having taken a look at the figures today to see what percentage
of folk might be affected, (around 60% of our mailing lists) we
figured we may as well provide this update while we are at it.

Why do we say "perhaps" and "maybe" regarding the numbers?

For a start some people are subscribed to more than one list.
Some folk are subscribed at both the YahooGroups and Topica
systems.

So the figures are not much better than guess-work and there is
no way of knowing how many of those 18 thousand people actually
still read DOMestic, how many let it drop into their spam
filters, how many bounce etc.

So, although we've been saying for quite a while that there are
over 10,000 folk now getting DOMestic by email, it's possible
that the numbers are somewhat larger or smaller. But we figure
10k is a fair guess.

DOMestic is now also being received by many more directly from
our server as a newsfeed.

See:-

http://www.mschristine.com/newsfeed.shtml

It's strange that with perhaps 10k or more people reading,
barely a few dozen seem to participate.

sincerely,
Christine and David at u4ds.com


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