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From: sissy maid wendy
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:27:10 +0000

This is the start of a number of brief accounts of a long term
sissy maid serving his/her Mistress and owner. We have had
contact with one another for many years... starting off as sub
and professional - moving to friends and ultimately Mistress
(Madam) taking full ownership and collaring the sissy maid
around 18 months ago.

Madam is a slim very mature and attractive Lady in her late
fifties her sissy maid is 6 years younger.

At the time the sissy was formally collared the maid was taken
by Madam in full view of the witnesses. The maid is now the
property of Mistress. A more detailed account of that day will
be prepared in the future.

Hopefully these short few lines have helped place the notes and
stories which follow in perspective. The accounts will sometimes
be brief but they are true.

Wonderful visit - Part one - Mistress and her maid

So many things... maid was formally given new duties for the
house cleaning and to put in good order all the play rooms on
the ground floor, plus the floors in the hall and kitchen, plus
a check of the toilets. In new cleaning uniform of red apron
only and no other clothes - except slave collar - showing the
ownership by Madam.

Dungeons and one sissy room cleaned and inspected by Madam.

Then to full traditional uniform but no panties worn, allowing
full access by Madam to her property at any time.

maid confessed to having 6 orgasms without permission.

Punishment for the day included:- being sent to the sissy room,
to be bent over the side of the bed with the maid kneeling on
the floor. Skirt was raised for punishment of a warmed up
stroking of the bottom by Madam with the cane, followed by 6
firm strokes with the cane for achieving an orgasm on 6
occasions since last visit without permission - these were firm
stokes with the maid thanking Madam after each stroke, the maid
was reminded of what each stroke was for as the cane struck the
maid's bottom.

Following the inspection of the sissy room Madam found dust on
the legs of one of her favorite chairs - Madam then required the
slave maid to remain kneeling over the bed with skirt raised,
Madam returned to the sissy room with a short whip, similar to a
9 tails, the maid received 4 firm strokes of the whip, with the
maid accepting Madam's punishment.

The maid then kissed Madam's feet acknowledging her place and
his ownership.

The maid cleaned up and returned the cane and whip to their
place. The maid was comforted by Madam, in the lounge. Madam
quickly had her hands under the maid's skirt and played with the
sissy's clit, a cock she now owns, it's use and enjoyment by the
maid is hers and that of her close friend Mistress ____.

The maid was later taken to the front dungeon to have Madam sit
on a chair with the maid to sit legs apart across the Madam's
lap, facing the Madam, where the maid was caressed and held his
owner as she moved in a simulated lap fucking of the maid, with
the maid's bare bottom, clit and all rubbing against the
Mistress' leather clad legs. It was a reminder to the maid that
he was a slut in training and soon it would be time for Madam to
use her strap on - perhaps the next visit or another - Madam was
yet to decide when and where to take her maid.

After this, for a while Madam had the sissy maid stand in front
of Madam and raise his skirt.

Madam then took her sissy's clit in her hand and held it by the
base as she slapped the cock head, either in an upward or
sideways motion. The pain was felt by the sissy as Madam gave
her a further 6 hard slaps on her sissy clit head to remind him
the penis was Madam's property and that her orgasms were for
women's pleasure not the sissy's own from this day forward..

The pain felt by the maid was very different, but as his
reddening cock head showed there was pain - but the maid did not
move away but leant forward after each stroke of Madam's hand to
show he accepted willingly her right to punish.

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

As I recently posted, I have found a wonderfully designed and
extremely comfortable chastity device, far superior to any of
the plastic cages and probably the most comfortable cage in the
world for a number of reasons. I've received a number of
inquiries so I wanted to post this asap.

The cage I have on now is handmade from stainless steel. To be as comfortable as possible, a chastity device must be sized in a very specific way. Some experimenting has found that if it is too small and restrictive, it will be painful. But, strangely, if it permits the penis to get erect, it will also be painful. That is because the testicles get pulled and squeezed at the back ring from the forward force of the erection. (click pictures to enlarge)

We have found that there is a "zone" within which the wearer
will be EXTREMELY comfortable! This is just one of the secrets
to having the most comfortable chastity device. For anyone who
wants to be able to wear a cage 24/7, real comfort and ease of
wear are a must. This is a cage that can be worn indefinitely.

Additionally, there is no friction with polished stainless
steel, like there is with the plastic of a CB-2000 or related
cages. Plus it is far less bulky. My cage is undetectable under
clothing because of it's sleek design. Properly fitted, a
stainless steel cage can be worn for as long as your Keyholder
wants you to wear it. Mine feels the same today, over six weeks
into wearing it, as it did the day I put it on!

There is little to no pain when the penis is restricted properly
within the cage because there is no pulling or strain on the
balls. Cages that are either too small or too big are both
uncomfortable, but a properly sized cage will feel almost as if
there's nothing there!

It's true for the penis so is it any wonder that it's true for
penis cages too? Size DOES matter! :-)

I put my custom cage on six weeks ago yesterday (Monday) and it feels exactly the same today as it did the day I put it on. I can clean myself in it because it's a fairly open design and I can shave with it on if I pull the skin back and forth.

Of all the devices I have worn, from my first, a Remy tube, through the Miller line of CB-2000 and the Curve, the Exobelt
and several others, including a full-belt style one, NOTHING has
come close to being "24/7/365 comfortable" like this one is.

One more thing is, I almost never put any lubrication on like I
needed to do with the plastic cages because polished stainless
steel is so very smooth and friction-free. Mistress loves the
way it looks and she calls it my penis jewelry. before she
reminded me that I was not to bring the subject up again.

If it's OK with Ms. Christine and David, I would like to make
these available to any DOMestic readers who might be interested
in obtaining one. They take hours to make and are real works of
art! When you buy one, you're not just getting a cage, you're
getting an expert who knows from experience how to size your
cage properly to fit you correctly for the long term!

These cannot be compared to any of the mass produced plastic
cages on the market. These are hand made by a metal artist just
for you. Each takes hours to make. The images here show my
favorites. The cage type is a sleeker version of the CB-2000 but
is light years away as far as comfort, feel and sleekness. It is
$250.00, will never break and will last a thousand years. The
more enclosed one is the one I'm wearing right now.

Anyone near Los Angeles will be able to order and pick it up in
person if they wish to do so. If anyone has any questions,
please feel free to ask, either on the list or in private email.

Thanks!

herslaveboy_2000@yahoo.com
email address info

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Re: C: Chastity, foot worship and the feeling of being gelded
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:51:41 -0500
From: Super A

slaveboy wrote:

>how long is the longest time anyone has gone w/o cumming?

I have personally gone 30 and 45 days several times with my
personal best being 105 days. But I know many guys who have
literally gone months and a couple who have several years under
their 'belts'.

Super A

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Re: C: Chastity, foot worship and the feeling of being gelded
From: jboy
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:20:31 -0300

slaveboy wrote:

>She got me a new cage recently and things took a very different
>turn after that. It's custom sized

hello slaveboy

perhaps I am blind (i did just wake up) but I can't for the life
of me see in your post what design your new cage is? we are
awaiting a new one that was custom made by maturemetal

more to follow when it arrives

jboy

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C: house work punishments etc
Date: 26 Jul 2009 03:12:30 -0000
From: sissy maid wendy

dear DOMestic Bdsm and Female Domination

my Mistress whom i regularly serve and have for some years would
like to place a brief account of my work in her house,
punishments etc, these maybe between a few lines and page or
two. we have discussed it and believe the time is right for me
to post these special occasions on the web - is this possible?

sissy maid wendy property of Madam Ayla

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Re: C: house work punishments etc
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:35:30 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello,

sissy maid wendy wrote:

>is this possible?

Yes of course. That's part of what we do on DOMestic.

Either post your account in the same way you posted your enquiry
or send in your post by email as we describe at:-

http://u4ds.com/submit_your_story_article.shtml

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: 26 Jul 2009 12:52:23 -0000
From: Jennie

Make him wear a pretty bra with a matching open crotch panty so
that his little penis is on show. Some girly perfume would
improve the effect. Spray some on the tip of his penis, as
perfume stings the penis.

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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:51:45 -0400
From: M

vince wrote:

>I am wondering where the event is going to be

Vince, you asked the location of the outdoor SM event that I
wrote about. It is held about one hour from Baltimore in
September and June of each year. It is like no other BDSM event!
Anything goes. Most people go with partners and there are more
male doms than female doms but it is all good.

darkodyssey.com/summercamp/home.html

M

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Re: C: keeping sub hubby nude - chastity a start?
Date: 26 Jul 2009 01:31:39 -0000
From: honu

Ashley wrote:

>any suggestions on making my sub hubby stay nude at home?

May I suggest, that to get him used to being naked full time,
try exposing him in front of your friends.

As a slave I was also shy, but when my master's friends and
sister in law were present, I was forced to remain naked, I was
able overcome my shyness. Master, like you, prefers/demands that
I be naked to help remind me I am her slave, and to let everyone
else know my status.

In the past year I have been able to overcome most of my shyness
and her friends seem to enjoy watching me serve my master.
Honestly I am able to focus a lot better on serving my master,
when I am not worrying about my clothing and my appearance.

Best regards,
A Naked Slave

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Re: C: Slave Contract
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:43:03 -0000
From: "Jo Robinson"

"MaitresseX" wrote:

>Does anyone on this list have experience with a slave
>contract?

I have. I will try and fish out a copy in the next few days for
you.

Joro.

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C: how to fuck hubby with a strap-on
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:43:57 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

You'll see and hear a lot of fantasy stuff on the 'net, some of
it will be nonsense, and some may be the opposite of what is
safe!

If you indulge in anal play, always make sure the dildo, plug,
finger or cock is clean. Always use a condom on cock or dildo
and a rubber glove on fingers, and always use lots of lubricant.
You can never have too much lubricant.

If you are going to have him suck it, and then fuck him with it,
then change condoms as you change orifices. The bacteria in his
anus are not meant for his mouth, and the bacteria in his mouth
are not meant for the anus. Wiping the dildo clean is not
enough.

You can surreptitiously change the condom while you are out of
sight behind him, which will allow you to "mind fuck" him by
telling him to "lick and suck it clean" when in fact the condom
he is licking and sucking is brand new and already clean.

Of course making him suck it beforehand is fun, "Get my dick wet
and ready for you slut!"

So have him suck the dildo before you put the condom on it, and
take the condom off it before you have him lick it clean
afterwards. If he's blindfolded so much the better for the
potential mind games.

I like David wearing a hood with eye slits that I can cover and
remove thus allowing me to control what he sees and when. I like
him to the see the strap on in place over my vulva, and looking
powerful and threatening. The hood restricts his hearing all the
time so he can't tell whether I'm opening a condom packet, or
getting out another rubber glove from the pack of disposables in
my dressing table.

For entering the anus use a water based silicone type lube, and
do not use hand creams or other products which were not designed
for internal use and may cause irritation. A fairly good rule
for folk who don't have access to sex shops and specialist
lubricants is that if the pharmacist sells it for lubricating a
woman's vagina during sex, it should at least be safe for
internal use.

Ignore anyone who suggests you start out by going all the way in
with a ten-incher. Obviously males differ in size, and a newbie
may not be ready for ten inches the first time, and don't take
such ideas away from watching fantasy videos. Start out small,
and if he is into bigger and bigger stretching you can work up
to larger ones later.

A flesh and blood cock feels when it is encountering resistance,
and the user should adapt their technique accordingly. It's
harder to do that with a dildo, so small in size, straight, and
gentle in use is the best rule for beginners.

Do not take any notice of people who suggest using lubricants
with brand names that suggest they ease pain during penetration.
Pain is a signal to stop or change what you are doing, so it is
a very bad idea to hide or mask pain.

You cannot insert a dildo in your male slut's anus and expect
him to behave as if he were born to it... it usually takes a bit
of getting used to. It also helps if he is psychologically
prepared.

I'll give David an order like:-

"I want you wet and ready for a good fucking tonight slut! And
you'll be doing some cock sucking first!"

This lets David know I want him to wash himself internally by
inserting a soapy finger with warm water over a bidet before
such an evening. He also knows to pre-lubricate himself, which
gets him good and ready for play later.

Washing helps a male slut be totally relaxed about "letting go"
as he will feel more confident that he is not "letting go" of
anything but his anal sphincter muscle.

Always be sure he has had a bowel movement before attempting
anal penetration. If you have the equipment, then giving him an
enema before anal play cleans him out and can make the whole
business nicer. And medical role-play type fantasies can be
incorporated into your evening.

I sometimes order him to wear a butt plug during the day so as
to accustom himself to what is going to happen later.

"Put that in, I'm going to fuck you later and I want you to be
reminded of that as you work today."

For such periods, I have him use a very small butt plug, not
much bigger than his thumb. It is secured to an external belt to
avoid it getting sucked up inside. (Which could make it hard to
retrieve!) Be sure that any butt plug or dildo that is inserted
in his anus has a wide base that will stop it entering fully if
it became disconnected from it's belt. This will save you from
having to go to the hospital!

Being ordered to wear a small plug all day as a reminder of what
is going to be 'done' to him in the evening is exciting while at
the same time helps gets him mentally and physically prepared
for the intrusion of the dildo later on.

When you have your slut bent over the end of the bed, or
kneeling upon it, start with your own fingers, using lots of
lubricant. Ease one finger into his anus, and when that is
comfortably accepted, try two fingers, and perhaps three. When
you think he is ready to try a dildo, make sure you lubricate
the inside of his anal cavity using your gloved fingers, and
apply lube to the dildo too. Ease it in gently.

If it hurts him, stop or slow down but do not immediately or
suddenly withdraw or the plug/dildo could cause fissuring as his
anus contracts around it defensively. Sudden intense anal pain
is sometimes caused by such involuntary constriction. Have him
breathe deeply for up to a minute until he wants to continue.
Give him a choice to stop altogether, because the pain could
signal a more serious problem.

I prefer to say something encoded like:-

"Are you ready for me to fuck you harder now slut, or will I
have to get my pleasure from spanking you instead."

This allows him to respond with something like:-

"Please be gentle with me Mistress"

if he can go on, or:-

"I'm sorry Mistress, please don't spank me too hard," if he
wants to signal that he thinks it safer to stop.

You might prefer instead to encourage him to signal when he is
ready to start again and have him push back towards you when he
is ready:-

"Show me how much you want it slut!"

A submissive shouldn't be seen to "top from the bottom" by
controlling what is done to him. But a male slut should be
responsible for his own safety, and should communicate how he
can make it easier for his Mistress to fuck him. So your
roleplay dialogue should allow for him to adjust his position.

For his safety you have to work out a method for him to control
the angle and rate of penetration. Only he knows if it feels
right and whether adjustment of his position or a breather is
required.

"Mistress, can I have a little rest please, then maybe I could
make it easier for you to fuck me if I lay on my side."

The smaller a dildo is, the less likely to cause irritation and
the more pleasure, especially for someone new to anal play. Now
David is experienced, and only after he is well and truly
relaxed into the process, I find a smaller five inch dildo
allows me to thrust powerfully without fear of doing damage.

If you are sure that your 'male slut' is both willing and
relaxed but he is still experiencing internal pain I would have
him see a doctor before doing any more anal play. He may have
haemorrhoids, or something more serious like a fissure or
polyps.

If he does have any health problems in that area I would avoid
inserting things without a doctors advice. Prostate massage is a
medical thing, not just a bdsm thing, so you should have no
problems or embarrassment in asking your doctor whether regular
prostate massage is a good thing in such a case.

For those with prostate problems, there are even devices sold,
resembling a curved finger, specifically for reaching the
prostate to massage it. Some folk advise using this if over 50
anyway. But although such a curved device might be suitable for
prostate massage, a curved dildo is not a good idea at all,
because you do not want to be pushing against the walls of the
anal canal when thrusting. You could cause a serious tear in the
anal canal.

If you ever see any blood during anal play, stop immediately and
withdraw slowly and gently. You should not see blood at all. But
he may have a haemorrhoid that he didn't realise was a problem.
A little blood from piles doesn't necessarily mean a serious
issue, but should cause you to stop anyway.

If he starts to bleed and the bleeding will not stop then get
medical attention immediately because it's hazardous for anal
bacteria to get into the blood-stream.

There are many posts regarding "Dildo play - size and safety" on
the member's web site. A good place to start is at:-

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/a_cbtass.htm

and then move on to

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/a_cbtas2.htm

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

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C: teaching hubby to take cock?
From: Ashley
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:12:03 EDT

hello,

thank you for all for the tips on keeping sub hubby nude and
chastity.

i have another question that he is unaware of yet... but soon
will be... what are your suggestions on teaching him to take
cock. like a good hubby?

i'm enjoying the way things are turning out as far as the nude
thing goes. he's really starting to learn his place with me..
and is being very obedient since i've locked him up. but, like i
said, he doesn't know this yet, but he will be my cocksucker and
fucker, and looking for ideas and suggestions..

thank you
Ashley

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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:24:33 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello,

Ashley wrote:

>what are your suggestions on teaching him to take cock. like a
>good hubby?

Not sure whether you mean a flesh and blood male cock, or
whether you mean teaching him to take female "cock" - as in a
dildo?

For my opinions on safe ways of using a dildo, fingers and butt
plugs on your male slut, please see my post earlier today at:

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/how_to_fuck_hubby_with_a_strap.shtml

It is a good idea to read that post anyway for safety, and if
you intend for him to take a male cock then there is no harm in
working him up to it by getting him used to taking a female one
first.

As psychological preparation, it will probably get him in the
right frame of mind if you tell him things like:-

"When you've learned how to suck me and take my dildo, I'll
enjoy watching you perform on my men friends before they fuck
you."

In my experience men are motivated by what pleases a woman, and
they like nothing more than thinking they are exciting you. So
telling him it will turn you on to fuck him and watch him being
fucked will likely excite him.

>he doesn't know this yet, but he will be my cocksucker and
>fucker, and looking for ideas and suggestions..

If my post referred above doesn't cover it, then perhaps you'd
let us know what kind of cock-sucking and fucking you have in
mind for him.

sincerely,
Christine

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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
Date: 26 Jul 2009 12:47:54 -0000
From: Jennie

Ashley wrote:

>what are your suggestions on teaching him to take
>cock. like a good hubby?

Undertake the following procedure nightly for at least one hour.
As the weeks pass increase the timings because when the husband
takes cock from another male he will have to remain in place for
up to fifteen minutes.

Get hold of a hard, straight dildo (not a gelatin filled one and
not a curved one) about three quarters of an inch diameter and
about ten inches long. You will also need absorbent kitchen
paper, rubber gloves and a bottle of lotion, liquid soap or
other lubricant. As in all training processes, a paddle or
school cane is essential.

Instruct the husband to go to the toilet and do a number two,
then to wipe and wash his bottom thoroughly and shave the
perianal hair. Examine the husband's bottom to check that it is
clean and properly shaven. If he has not done it properly,
paddle his buttocks hard and insist that he do it properly. Do
not clean or shave him yourself

Give the husband a roll of kitchen paper and a waste bin. Put
the rubber gloves on. Put the husband into either a squatting
position or a bent over position. Forbid the husband to touch
the dildo until you tell him to touch it. If he demurs or
obstructs the training process, use the paddle with strength.
Tie him into position over a heavy desk if you need to.

Grease the dildo with lotion or hand cream, put a blob of lotion
on his anus, then keep the husband in place and gently but
firmly push the dildo up his bottom as far until only the base
of it can be seen. The anal canal is parallel to the spine and
unless you use too much force the dildo will guide itself along
the canal without hurting or causing any damage. If the husband
feels pain he must bend further forward, which will straighten
his anal canal. Do not stop inserting the dildo.

Hold the dildo in his bottom for twenty seconds then allow his
body to expel it. As the dildo emerges, instruct the husband to
take hold of the dildo, wipe the brown stuff off it, wipe his
bottom clean, and return the dildo to you. Inspect his bottom
and the dildo.

Hold the dildo at the husband's mouth and insist that he lick
and kiss it. Then push the dildo into the husband's mouth until
he is choking on it. Hold it in place for a full minute. The
husband must close his lips around the dildo and kiss it.

Then grease the dildo again and repeat the process, lengthening
the times appropriately.

Towards the end of the training process ask the male who is
going to be inserting into the husband's bottom to hold the
dildo.

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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:19:36 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello,

While I liked the focus on gradually training hubby to accept
"cock" over a prolonged period as expressed in Jennie's post,
there are a few details I will have to disagree on.

Jennie wrote:

>a hard, straight dildo (not a gelatin filled one and not a
>curved one)

I agree with Jennie, these are important points, you don't want
the dildo to be curved, and neither do you want it to flop
around and go in directions that you can't control. You don't
want to be thrusting against the walls of the anal canal where
you can do serious damage.

You want it to slide smoothly along the canal unimpeded. So a
dildo that will not bend easily, not too thick/wide, and is not
sharp in any way is a good idea. Rigid and unbending, but it
doesn't have to be too hard.

>about three quarters of an inch diameter and about ten inches
>long.

I'll have to disagree with the focus on length unless you intend
to hold quite a bit of it in your hand, when you may be gripping
several inches or more, so in that case a ten inch one may mean
you are only inserting five or six inches.

But if you are going to strap on a dildo and thrust into him
vigorously, then focusing on getting ten inches up inside him is
not a good idea for a beginner.

All of the pleasurable areas are within the reach of a female
finger, so depending on how much external buttock flesh he has
which will be resisting your thrusts, you may want to think in
terms of something closer to five or six inches.

Male bodies differ and some may have a lot of buttock flesh in
the way of a good pelvic thrust with a strap-on and this may
mean you'll want a longer one.

>a bottle of lotion, liquid soap or other lubricant

The kind of liquid soap most households have around is not a
good idea for internal use as a lubricant.

As I say in my other post on this topic today, for entering the
anus use a water based lubricant, and do not use hand creams or
other products which were not designed for internal use and
which may cause irritation.

A fairly good rule for folk who don't have access to shops which
sell specialist lubricants is that if the pharmacist sells it
for lubricating a woman's vagina during intercourse, it should
at least be safe for internal use.

>As in all training processes, a paddle or school cane is
>essential.

This I like, especially as it's good to offer an alternative
training program if internal anal pain requires one to stop the
anal training.

A cane can encourage some enthusiasm for "cock sucking".

>Instruct the husband to go to the toilet and do a number two,
>then to wipe and wash his bottom thoroughly

I agree with this and would go further and encourage a bit of
internal washing too.

>and shave the perianal hair.

An excellent idea, I do find men's anal hair to be both messy
and unattractive. What do the men folk use for shaving around
their own anus, an electric razor perhaps? I imagine an ordinary
one is hard to use out of sight down there?

>Grease the dildo with lotion or hand cream

Hand creams are not a good idea. Only use a product designed for
internal use.

>put a blob of lotion on his anus

More than a blob I'd say. I'd use my finger in a rubber glove
and massage quite a few blobs up inside him until it feels like
a wet blancmange in there. And I'd cane him if my finger came
out looking too messy. That encourages him to take more care on
the internal washing next time.

>If the husband feels pain he must bend further forward, which
>will straighten his anal canal.

Adjusting his position for ease of entry is essential.

>Do not stop inserting the dildo.

I strongly disagree. Definitely stop inserting if he feels pain.
But don't immediately or suddenly withdraw. Wait a while for the
pain to ease. Then ensure it is safe to proceed as I explain in
my post here:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/how_to_fuck_hubby_with_a_strap.shtml

>Hold the dildo in his bottom for twenty seconds then allow his
>body to expel it.

This does sound like a good training method to get him
accustomed to it. Also allowing his body to expel it slowly and
naturally is better than withdrawing against any resistance his
anal constriction might cause. Plenty of lube makes for a lot
easier withdrawal.

>As the dildo emerges, instruct the husband to take hold of the
>dildo, wipe the brown stuff off it, wipe his bottom clean, and
>return the dildo to you. Inspect his bottom and the dildo.

All of which is fine, except I'd also have a condom on the dildo
which can then immediately be removed, wrapped in the tissue,
and dropped in the bin.

>Hold the dildo at the husband's mouth and insist that he lick
>and kiss it.

Not unless it was wrapped in a condom and the condom has now
been removed. It is not wise to needlessly risk transferring
anal bacteria to the mouth..

If you want him to believe he is kissing and licking the same
dildo, in the same state as was just removed, then just put a
new clean condom on it while out of his sight.

>Then push the dildo into the husband's mouth until he is
>choking on it. Hold it in place for a full minute. The husband
>must close his lips around the dildo and kiss it.

All fine except for the choking. Teach him to accept it fully
without choking. If he becomes accomplished at deep throat he'll
make a useful male slut to offer to your boyfriends.

>Then grease the dildo again and repeat the process,
>lengthening the times appropriately.

Now I'd of course advise that you put a fresh condom on the
dildo to start again.

For more on this topic see my post:-

"how to fuck hubby with a strap-on"

sincerely,
Christine

The Fem Dom Training Software.
Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.

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Re: C: teaching hubby to take cock?
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:12:01 +0100
From: "David" at u4ds.com

Hello,

The mechanics and safety of anal play has been covered, so I'd
like to look at one of the fun and yet very safe aspects from
this male's perspective of the other element in Ashley's
question...

Ashley wrote:

>he doesn't know this yet, but he will be my cocksucker

The "cocksucker" element provides lots of humiliation potential,
and humiliation is one of my favourites, probably _the_
favourite aspect for me of Fem-Dom.

The training process itself provides plenty of opportunity for
roleplay that is highly arousing, for me anyway. Being told that
my Mistress wants to train me to take cock, both orally and
anally is exciting. Even if I don't really believe (in my heart
of hearts) that she intends to introduce another male into the
scenario in the way she implies.

I tend to suspend disbelief when excited, (you may call this
thinking with the small head) and there's something quite
exciting about seeing Mistress with a strap-on in position over
her sensual and feminine lingerie, a bulge ready to be unzipped
from her jeans, or revealed beneath her raised skirt.

Kneeling with my head buried in her vulva is one of my favourite
positions anyway, so the fact that I'm being "forced" to do so
is going to arouse me, even if it is for a rather different
reason - "cocksucking" or in this case dildo sucking.

In another context you can read in our video description for
"Brought to Heel" where Christine says:-

"When Mistress has men... in the house... and she brings them to
her bed, doggy must learn to be very quiet and not play with
himself under the bed. Now I can't risk doing this without
having a trial run. Just so that I can see that you know how to
behave yourself."

In that instance, while I was really on the floor pretending to
be a doggy and listening to Christine pleasure herself above, I
didn't really believe she intended to bring a man home, but my
doubt, and my imagination was enough to make it a very arousing
role-play.

It's precisely this kind of dialogue that excites me, even if
I'm unsure, or perhaps because there is always that doubt in my
mind.

So Mistress would only have to say something along the lines of
how much it would turn her on to see me suck a man's cock, and
that she wanted to train me to do it properly, for me to get
very excited by the idea of being forced to suck on her dildo.
Such is the effect of my thinking with the small head.

Christine wrote:

>if you intend for him to take a male cock then there is no harm
>in working him up to it by getting him used to taking a female
>one first.

And even if you don't intend to, there's a lot of fun in letting
him think you might.

Christine wrote:

>In my experience men are motivated by what pleases a woman, and
>they like nothing more than thinking they are exciting you

That's certainly true of me. There is nothing more exciting than
the idea that my Mistress is sexually turned on by dominating or
humiliating me. So the idea that watching me suck on her dildo
might excite her a bit, is going to make me want to do it.
Although I might also enjoy expressing a bit of reluctance, just
so I can feel her "force" me.

Ashley wrote:

>looking for ideas and suggestions..

My suggestion is to tease him in to it. Sow the seed. Mention
while in conversation how exciting it would be to see a man suck
cock and then let the seed grow for a while.

Then one day when you sit on his lap and let him spot the bulge
of a dildo. Or emerge into the living room with one pushing out
the front of a loose fitting negligee; he will not be so
surprised when you tell him why it's there and that you want to
see him suck on it.

Or simply sit on the sofa or an armchair and order, "come over
here cocksucker, on your knees and show me how it's done."

On the issue of condoms, shouldn't a "cocksucker" be trained in
the art of putting one on the dildo (or cock) before he sucks
it?

No need to hide the process of putting a condom on a dildo. Turn
it into an exciting mind fuck which lends weight to the idea you
are training him to do it for real, and train him to make a cock
safe.

"Mistress doesn't want you to take any risks with your health,
so you've got to learn how to make a cock safe before you suck
on it."

Hand him the condom.

"And you've got to learn how to keep the cock hard and excited,
you have to learn to play with it, and make putting the condom
on a sensual experience for the guy."

Plenty of excuses for spanking and further training if he gets
at all fumbly with the process. Teaching him to suck cock like a
'pro' could be a lot of fun.

"Now I have neutered you with your chastity belt, you are almost
like a girlie boy, so a 'real man' like my boyfriend will enjoy
having you suck on him."

When you move on to 'fucking' him with your dildo, then he could
also be taught by his Mistress how to play safe and put a condom
on the dildo before anal penetration, and how to remove it
afterwards, and if needs be put another one in place before the
cock goes into his mouth.

After this kind of mind fucking, you may find he becomes less
reluctant, and perhaps quite eager, to excite his Mistress and
do it for a "real man". And he'll also be reassured by the
knowledge that when he does, his Mistress will keep him safe.

sincerely,
David

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Re: P: dominant wife seeking couples with similar interests
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:51:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

bob wrote:

>i am a submissive husband to an increasingly dominant wife. She
>desires devotion to Her and my chastity as lifestyle pursuits.
>We've been together more than six years, are monogamous and
>love each other very much. We live in Los Angeles.

Hi bob,

We are in L.A. How about emailing me and let's talk. We are
apparently much like you two, are very much in love and
monogamous. If the ladies have anything in common, maybe we can
meet at some point. If you have read my post (linked here) we
are very much into chastity. Hope to hear from you soon.

private emails always welcome
herslaveboy_2000@yahoo.com
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P: fag pig dog bitch - online or phone slave
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:41:12 -0000
From: "m" - starfox27588

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Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8
From: jboy
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:25:41 -0300

I noticed someone mentioning that their old software didn't
work... i had the same problem but thought it was due to a
scratch on the cd :( after formatting the 'puter it wasn't
working and we chucked it out.

when we got it i believe we had a different name/account here (i
can't for the life of me remember what our old handle was) any
chance of getting a replacement?

jboy

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Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:20:01 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello jboy,

We sent you email off list, but didn't hear back from you. You
may need to check your bulk email / spam folder / settings.

We don't need your "handle" as it was on DOMestic. We just need
details of the purchase which will have been in your real name I
presume? To send you the new version by email as a zip file, all
we need in private email to the support address is your name and
postal address as they were when you originally purchased.

I imagine your name is the same? And you can presumably recall
roughly where you were living?

The problems with your old CD wasn't a problem with the older
version of the software because the CD version should be
unaffected by the IE8 bug. That IE8 bug should only affect
software running from the hard drive if your CD settings are
typical.

The most likely cause of a problem with any home made CD, like
ours, is that your CD heads are dirty. Dirty heads affects the
reading of home made CDs before they affect factory made ones.
So your CD drive may appear to be operating normally, but the
performance may be degrading due to dirty heads.

A new CD will not fix that unless you first change the drive or
use a head cleaning disc. You can get those from most
supermarkets / office equipment stores etc for about $10

It could have been a badly scratched CD, but dirt is more
likely.

To send you a new CD, we need an order for the $10 shipping from
the same person as your original purchase. See:-

http://www.mschristine.com/both.shtml

for a link to pay the $10 shipping.

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

The Fem Dom Training Software.
Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.

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admin: YahooGroups membership bug
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:43:50 +0100
From: "Christine and David" at u4ds.com

Hello,

If anyone has in the last couple of weeks attempted to
subscribe, unsubscribe, or change any email settings for their
subscription for any YahooGroup larger than 350 members, those
changes will probably not take effect until early August when a
bug-fix is hopefully expected to have updated the "replicated
database system".

According to Yahoo, the current effects of the RepDB system bug
include:-

The member list will be out of date with new members not yet
appearing on the list, making it impossible for moderators to
change the settings (or remove) these members.

Members who are not showing up on the member list will also not
receive messages via email (although they can still read
messages on the web or post via email).

Members who have recently unsubscribed will continue to receive
messages from the group until the RepDB system is up to date.

Changes to email settings will not take effect.

Members who have been reactivated out of bouncing status will
still not get email.

For more details of why you may be having problems with any
Yahoogroup that you have joined (or a group you moderate) you
can read details of the bug on Yahoo's blog at:-

RepDB Bug Affecting Big Groups

As the problem is at Yahoogroups and not on our servers, there
is nothing we can do but add our apologies to those you can read
from Yahoogroups at the link above.

There is no doubt that some of you will be affected by this bug
because DOMestic and FEMdom_sex has three groups which send mail
out via Yahoogroups:-

domestic 10643 members
DOMesticMsChristine 159 members
FEMdom_sex 1836 members

That means perhaps twelve thousand people who in this is holiday
period may want to change their email settings on two of those
groups above will not be able to.

The two distribution methods on Topica are not affected:-

DOMesticBdsm 2472 members
FEMdom_sex 1490 members

The three original lists, the click list, the individual
messages list, and the original Mime digest list have another
thousand or so, and they are all sent out via our own mail
servers, which are also not affected.

So there are maybe five thousand DOMestic and FEMdom_sex folk
who are not affected.

Having taken a look at the figures today to see what percentage
of folk might be affected, (around 60% of our mailing lists) we
figured we may as well provide this update while we are at it.

Why do we say "perhaps" and "maybe" regarding the numbers?

For a start some people are subscribed to more than one list.
Some folk are subscribed at both the YahooGroups and Topica
systems.

So the figures are not much better than guess-work and there is
no way of knowing how many of those 18 thousand people actually
still read DOMestic, how many let it drop into their spam
filters, how many bounce etc.

So, although we've been saying for quite a while that there are
over 10,000 folk now getting DOMestic by email, it's possible
that the numbers are somewhat larger or smaller. But we figure
10k is a fair guess.

DOMestic is now also being received by many more directly from
our server as a newsfeed.

See:-

http://www.mschristine.com/newsfeed.shtml

It's strange that with perhaps 10k or more people reading,
barely a few dozen seem to participate.

sincerely,
Christine and David at u4ds.com

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From: "Christine and David" at u4ds.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:43:50 +0100

Hello,

If anyone has in the last couple of weeks attempted to
subscribe, unsubscribe, or change any email settings for their
subscription for any YahooGroup larger than 350 members, those
changes will probably not take effect until early August when a
bug-fix is hopefully expected to have updated the "replicated
database system".

According to Yahoo, the current effects of the RepDB system bug
include:-

• The member list will be out of date with new members not yet appearing on the list, making it impossible for moderators to change the settings (or remove) these members.
• Members who are not showing up on the member list will also not receive messages via email (although they can still read messages on the web or post via email).
• Members who have recently unsubscribed will continue to receive messages from the group until the RepDB system is up to date.
• Changes to email settings will not take effect.
• Members who have been reactivated out of bouncing status will still not get email.

For more details of why you may be having problems with any
Yahoogroup that you have joined (or a group you moderate) you
can read details of the bug on Yahoo's blog at:-

RepDB Bug Affecting Big Groups

As the problem is at Yahoogroups and not on our servers, there
is nothing we can do but add our apologies to those you can read
from Yahoogroups at the link above.

There is no doubt that some of you will be affected by this bug
because DOMestic and FEMdom_sex has three groups which send mail
out via Yahoogroups:-

• domestic 10643 members
• DOMesticMsChristine 159 members
• FEMdom_sex 1836 members

That means perhaps twelve thousand people who in this is holiday
period may want to change their email settings on two of those
groups above will not be able to.

The two distribution methods on Topica are not affected:-

• DOMesticBdsm 2472 members
• FEMdom_sex 1490 members

The three original lists, the click list, the individual
messages list, and the original Mime digest list have another
thousand or so, and they are all sent out via our own mail
servers, which are also not affected.

So there are maybe five thousand DOMestic and FEMdom_sex folk
who are not affected.

Having taken a look at the figures today to see what percentage
of folk might be affected, (around 60% of our mailing lists) we
figured we may as well provide this update while we are at it.

Why do we say "perhaps" and "maybe" regarding the numbers?

For a start some people are subscribed to more than one list.
Some folk are subscribed at both the YahooGroups and Topica
systems.

So the figures are not much better than guess-work and there is
no way of knowing how many of those 18 thousand people actually
still read DOMestic, how many let it drop into their spam
filters, how many bounce etc.

So, although we've been saying for quite a while that there are
over 10,000 folk now getting DOMestic by email, it's possible
that the numbers are somewhat larger or smaller. But we figure
10k is a fair guess.

DOMestic is now also being received by many more directly from
our server as a newsfeed.

See:-

http://www.mschristine.com/newsfeed.shtml

It's strange that with perhaps 10k or more people reading,
barely a few dozen seem to participate.

sincerely,
Christine and David at Ms-Christine.com

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From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:43:57 +0100

You'll see and hear a lot of fantasy stuff on the 'net, some of
it will be nonsense, and some may be the opposite of what is
safe!

If you indulge in anal play, always make sure the dildo, plug,
finger or cock is clean. Always use a condom on cock or dildo
and a rubber glove on fingers, and always use lots of lubricant.
You can never have too much lubricant.

If you are going to have him suck it, and then fuck him with it,
then change condoms as you change orifices. The bacteria in his
anus are not meant for his mouth, and the bacteria in his mouth
are not meant for the anus. Wiping the dildo clean is not
enough.

You can surreptitiously change the condom while you are out of
sight behind him, which will allow you to "mind fuck" him by
telling him to "lick and suck it clean" when in fact the condom
he is licking and sucking is brand new and already clean.

Of course making him suck it beforehand is fun, "Get my dick wet
and ready for you slut!"

So have him suck the dildo before you put the condom on it, and
take the condom off it before you have him lick it clean
afterwards. If he's blindfolded so much the better for the
potential mind games.

I like David wearing a hood with eye slits that I can cover and
remove thus allowing me to control what he sees and when. I like
him to the see the strap on in place over my vulva, and looking
powerful and threatening. The hood restricts his hearing all the
time so he can't tell whether I'm opening a condom packet, or
getting out another rubber glove from the pack of disposables in
my dressing table.

For entering the anus use a water based silicone type lube, and
do not use hand creams or other products which were not designed
for internal use and may cause irritation. A fairly good rule
for folk who don't have access to sex shops and specialist
lubricants is that if the pharmacist sells it for lubricating a
woman's vagina during sex, it should at least be safe for
internal use.

Ignore anyone who suggests you start out by going all the way in
with a ten-incher. Obviously males differ in size, and a newbie
may not be ready for ten inches the first time, and don't take
such ideas away from watching fantasy videos. Start out small,
and if he is into bigger and bigger stretching you can work up
to larger ones later.

A flesh and blood cock feels when it is encountering resistance,
and the user should adapt their technique accordingly. It's
harder to do that with a dildo, so small in size, straight, and
gentle in use is the best rule for beginners.

Do not take any notice of people who suggest using lubricants
with brand names that suggest they ease pain during penetration.
Pain is a signal to stop or change what you are doing, so it is
a very bad idea to hide or mask pain.

You cannot insert a dildo in your male slut's anus and expect
him to behave as if he were born to it... it usually takes a bit
of getting used to. It also helps if he is psychologically
prepared.

I'll give David an order like:-

"I want you wet and ready for a good fucking tonight slut! And
you'll be doing some cock sucking first!"

This lets David know I want him to wash himself internally by
inserting a soapy finger with warm water over a bidet before
such an evening. He also knows to pre-lubricate himself, which
gets him good and ready for play later.

Washing helps a male slut be totally relaxed about "letting go"
as he will feel more confident that he is not "letting go" of
anything but his anal sphincter muscle.

Always be sure he has had a bowel movement before attempting
anal penetration. If you have the equipment, then giving him an
enema before anal play cleans him out and can make the whole
business nicer. And medical role-play type fantasies can be
incorporated into your evening.

I sometimes order him to wear a butt plug during the day so as
to accustom himself to what is going to happen later.

"Put that in, I'm going to fuck you later and I want you to be
reminded of that as you work today."

For such periods, I have him use a very small butt plug, not
much bigger than his thumb. It is secured to an external belt to
avoid it getting sucked up inside. (Which could make it hard to
retrieve!) Be sure that any butt plug or dildo that is inserted
in his anus has a wide base that will stop it entering fully if
it became disconnected from it's belt. This will save you from
having to go to the hospital!

Being ordered to wear a small plug all day as a reminder of what
is going to be 'done' to him in the evening is exciting while at
the same time helps gets him mentally and physically prepared
for the intrusion of the dildo later on.

When you have your slut bent over the end of the bed, or
kneeling upon it, start with your own fingers, using lots of
lubricant. Ease one finger into his anus, and when that is
comfortably accepted, try two fingers, and perhaps three. When
you think he is ready to try a dildo, make sure you lubricate
the inside of his anal cavity using your gloved fingers, and
apply lube to the dildo too. Ease it in gently.

If it hurts him, stop or slow down but do not immediately or
suddenly withdraw or the plug/dildo could cause fissuring as his
anus contracts around it defensively. Sudden intense anal pain
is sometimes caused by such involuntary constriction. Have him
breathe deeply for up to a minute until he wants to continue.
Give him a choice to stop altogether, because the pain could
signal a more serious problem.

I prefer to say something encoded like:-

"Are you ready for me to fuck you harder now slut, or will I
have to get my pleasure from spanking you instead."

This allows him to respond with something like:-

"Please be gentle with me Mistress"

if he can go on, or:-

"I'm sorry Mistress, please don't spank me too hard," if he
wants to signal that he thinks it safer to stop.

You might prefer instead to encourage him to signal when he is
ready to start again and have him push back towards you when he
is ready:-

"Show me how much you want it slut!"

A submissive shouldn't be seen to "top from the bottom" by
controlling what is done to him. But a male slut should be
responsible for his own safety, and should communicate how he
can make it easier for his Mistress to fuck him. So your
roleplay dialogue should allow for him to adjust his position.

For his safety you have to work out a method for him to control
the angle and rate of penetration. Only he knows if it feels
right and whether adjustment of his position or a breather is
required.

"Mistress, can I have a little rest please, then maybe I could
make it easier for you to fuck me if I lay on my side."

The smaller a dildo is, the less likely to cause irritation and
the more pleasure, especially for someone new to anal play. Now
David is experienced, and only after he is well and truly
relaxed into the process, I find a smaller five inch dildo
allows me to thrust powerfully without fear of doing damage.

If you are sure that your 'male slut' is both willing and
relaxed but he is still experiencing internal pain I would have
him see a doctor before doing any more anal play. He may have
haemorrhoids, or something more serious like a fissure or
polyps.

If he does have any health problems in that area I would avoid
inserting things without a doctors advice. Prostate massage is a
medical thing, not just a bdsm thing, so you should have no
problems or embarrassment in asking your doctor whether regular
prostate massage is a good thing in such a case.

For those with prostate problems, there are even devices sold,
resembling a curved finger, specifically for reaching the
prostate to massage it. Some folk advise using this if over 50
anyway. But although such a curved device might be suitable for
prostate massage, a curved dildo is not a good idea at all,
because you do not want to be pushing against the walls of the
anal canal when thrusting. You could cause a serious tear in the
anal canal.

If you ever see any blood during anal play, stop immediately and
withdraw slowly and gently. You should not see blood at all. But
he may have a haemorrhoid that he didn't realise was a problem.
A little blood from piles doesn't necessarily mean a serious
issue, but should cause you to stop anyway.

If he starts to bleed and the bleeding will not stop then get
medical attention immediately because it's hazardous for anal
bacteria to get into the blood-stream.

There are many posts regarding "Dildo play - size and safety" on
the member's web site. A good place to start is at:-

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/a_cbtass.htm

and then move on to:-

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/a_cbtas2.htm

and:-

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/a_cbtas3.htm

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com

The DOMestic discussion list. Now in our thirteenth year. The
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stories, plus pictures, and hundreds of articles. $26.99 for a
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Date: 26 Jul 2009 03:12:30 -0000
From: sissy maid wendy

dear DOMestic Bdsm and Female Domination

my Mistress whom i regularly serve and have for some years would
like to place a brief account of my work in her house,
punishments etc, these maybe between a few lines and page or
two. we have discussed it and believe the time is right for me
to post these special occasions on the web - is this possible?

sissy maid wendy property of Madam Ayla

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From: Ashley
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:12:03 EDT

hello,

thank you all for the tips on keeping sub hubby nude and
chastity.

i have another question that he is unaware of yet... but soon
will be... what are your suggestions on teaching him to take
cock. like a good hubby?

i'm enjoying the way things are turning out as far as the nude
thing goes. he's really starting to learn his place with me..
and is being very obedient since i've locked him up. but, like i
said, he doesn't know this yet, but he will be my cocksucker and
fucker, and looking for ideas and suggestions..

thank you
Ashley

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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:41:12 -0000
From: "m" - starfox27588

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this slave pig dog bitch as an online or phone slave. Do to me
as you will, I am a toy here for your fun. Take over my whole
life if you wish to.

You can humiliate me, or anything else you like, at home, at
work, or anywhere you wish. And I'll give you my phone number
too if you like.

If you would like to know more, email me at

wakefeildjr@gmail.com
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# Re: C: keeping sub hubby nude - chastity a start?
# C: Chastity, foot worship and the feeling of being gelded
# Re: C: Birdlocked male chastity belt in silicone
# C: learning to be a dominatrix
# S: In The Bank Manager's Cupboard. Part Thirty-three

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C: Slave Contract
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:41:19 -0000
From: "MaitresseX"

Does anyone on this list have experience with a slave contract?
If so please share your experiences.

Also, I am looking for a copy of a slave contract.

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Re: C: keeping sub hubby nude - chastity a start?
Date: 19 Jul 2009 15:22:46 -0000
From: stoney

Ashley wrote:

>any suggestions on making my sub hubby stay nude at home?

Dear Ashley

If You and he both agree that he has a need to be dominated i
suggest the best manner in which You will shift the direction
Y/you both are traveling, if keeping him naked is something You
desire, is to find out what excites his need for domination.
Strengthen that desire and need within him and he will more
likely follow Your direction and lead.

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C: Chastity, foot worship and the feeling of being gelded
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:06:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

Hi All,

It's been quite some time since I have posted here such that
maybe no one remembers me. My Wife/Mistress and I have enjoyed
almost ten years of lifestyle D/s. I bought her our first
chastity device for our wedding and we took D/s vows, after the
actual wedding, in private.

Chastity has long had a deep hold on me, but after trying so
many different devices my Mistress settled on her favorite as
the Club Fem mcd because she liked the spikes and the pain I had
to endure with every arousal.

She enjoys using me for oral and she has redefined what "sex" is
for me. For me, "sex" has been reduced to simple foot worship. I
once posted years ago on one of the ways she did this, but I
think it's worth retelling.

She would allow me to take my cage off, and then fetch the
petroleum jelly. She would often dress up for my "lesson in self
control" as she would call them. She would have me masturbate in
front of Her. She would tease me with her foot, dangling it and
pointing it at me and would order me to stop masturbating before
I could cum and then she would have me scurry over and kiss her
foot as she told me how nice it felt to have her feet kissed and
worshipped. I would be on the edge but unable to cum, with very
pleasant sensations going through me as I kissed and worshipped
her feet. After she was done, she would make me get back in the
cage and she would refer to my worship as my relief.

It was a long time until I was able to accept that I was being
conditioned to be sexless for her.

She had other, similar activities she would put me through, all
conditioning me to enjoy the pleasure of foot worship more and
more, which I learned to do in a serious way. She even began to
call me her eunuch, she said sex was only for her, and that
males are dirty and that making a "mess" in her bed was
disgusting and unacceptable.

It has evolved over the years to where we are now... "foreplay"
for me is now kissing her hand (first base) kissing Her down
there while she is clothed (second base) kissing her feet from
toes to ankle (third base) and, when she is pleased with me, she
will lift up her foot and allow me the intimacy and pleasure of
kissing the bottoms of her toes and feet (which is going all the
way).

When she wants me to pleasure her, after she is done, she always
sends me to her feet saying "you may have your pleasure now
slave". At this point, I find it intoxicating, mostly because of
all the conditioning and training to make me realign my wants to
her wishes, and now I find her feet are highly eroticized for
me.

Newest development:

She got me a new cage recently and things took a very different
turn after that. It's custom sized and when Mistress realized
how comfortable it was, she took everything a bit farther,
telling me that I am to stay in it for a year in her honor. She
made me take a vow that I would remain caged for the year as
long as there are no physical problems.

It's been over five weeks and I can hardly even feel that it's
there. I feel it is the best cage for many reasons. Mistress
loves it and the really cool thing is, neither of us had any
notion that very first time when she had me put it on that it
might actually stay on me forever, but that is what she has
since implied!! She said that as long as there is no reason to
remove it that it will stay on. The darn thing is so comfortable
it's amazing.

When she asked how it felt after a couple weeks in it, I told
her that it felt more like I had been gelded, because most of
the time it feels as if there's nothing there anymore. She
smiled and looked very pleased and said she liked that, adding,
"you do know that once a male is gelded there's no going back
for him" leading me to think that, should I make it for the
year, she'll have a little celebration or something to
acknowledge my 'achievement' and then expect me to continue on
as her eunuch.

New rules, implemented because of this new cage are;

I will remain caged as long as there are no physical reasons to
take it off (I can shave and clean myself easily because of it's
design)

I may not cum. To the end, if and when it happens I must consume
it, because the thought of that deters me from wanting to cum.
Because she says that my fluids must continue to build daily in
her honor, if there is some loss it must be consumed. If she
isn't there I must report it to her.

I must accept that it is disrespectful and disobedient to her if
I do cum and that I will be punished for doing so, in addition
to having to eat it.

I must exercise daily to work off frustration and stay in shape.

I must not bring up the subject of wanting to get out because I
took a vow to stay in it.

This is all true and is not a joke or a fantasy, nor is it
embellished. Has anyone else been kept chaste for such a long
time? (assuming I can do this).

Also, how long is the longest time anyone has gone w/o cumming?
I went the first 3 1/2 weeks but had some spillage in the early
morning 2 weeks ago and swallowed it for the first time in my
life... found it disgusting and don't want to do that again so
I'm trying my best to do as she wishes.

She calls me 'patience' now and says i'll earn the name
'chastity' if i can do this for a year.

Private emails are always appreciated.

herslaveboy_2000@yahoo.com
email address info

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Re: C: Birdlocked male chastity belt in silicone
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:59:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

j boy wrote:

>this has made chastity a lot less enjoyable for both of us and
>am now looking for something more secure... perhaps a full
>belt. yes these are far more expensive but if i had bought a
>"cs 100" from "chastity steel" in the first place i would have
>spent the same as trying the others... or less since we are
>leaning that way now anyway.

I'm just catching up on back issues after having sent in a
posting yesterday about our new chastity cage.

The advantages of this cage are, it is steel, so it will not
break, ever. It is custom fitted in a very specific way that
ensures comfort while restricting erections, it is easy to clean
and even shave in it by pulling skin this way and that and it is
actually reasonably priced.

I was so impressed that I'm negotiating with the maker to try
and help market it. Anyone interested please email me privately
and I will help you to get yourself one. Also, if there is any
need for adjustments after the purchase, they will be done for a
small shipping charge only.

I'm in a hurry to leave right now so anyone interested please
email me. I believe my other post from yesterday goes into other
details. I hope you haven't committed to anything else yet. Take
care!

herslaveboy_2000@yahoo.com
email address info

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C: learning to be a dominatrix
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:01:11 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello,

In "how to be a better dominatrix" - "Willing to learn" wrote:

>I too am new to this whole thing.. and actually we tried it
>for the first time last night.. and well.. it ended up going
>nowhere...

That's fine, don't worry about it. Think of dominating a
submissive male as like learning to ride a bike (if you'll
excuse the analogy) - do you remember your first time on a
bicycle?

Most folk don't go anywhere the first time they sit on a
bicycle, you may go round in circles if you are lucky, and you
will most likely fall of a few times before you get the hang of
it. Some folk even have stabilisers (training wheels) or even a
parent holding the bike up. Although I think sitting on a guy's
face is quite a bit easier than staying upright on a bicycle.

Anyway, until you get your balance, think of DOMestic like the
dom/sub stabilisers. Ask questions here yourself and soon you'll
begin to get the hang of it even if you will not be ready to
head out or get up any speed on the main road. As you've just
discovered by reading a thread from 2008 any replies posted to
your questions now will also help others like yourself in the
future.

Where do you want to go with your new bicycle? Why did it not
get there? Did it a least start to go in the right direction?
What made lose balance and fall off?

>Thank you all for your great advice, and any more you post!

To post more advice we need new questions. However, the "how to
be a better dominatrix" message you replied to was posted over a
year ago in June 2008, and there has been a lot of good advice
given on DOMestic before and since.

Your best way to access some of that advice is via the front
page of the blog at:-

http://u4ds.com/

and scan down the sections in the sidebar until you see a
subject which is appropriate or of interest.

For example, the section this post is filed under is....

Learning / To be Dominant at:-

http://u4ds.com/learning/to_be_dominant/

But there are lots of other topics that may interest you, too
many to give links to them all here.

Any time you need help there are 4 key strokes to get you
straight to DOMestic - u4ds - You can just type U4DS in most
search engines or browsers and you'll go straight to the front
page of the blog and you can then scan down the menu on the
right hand side to topics like....

Communication / Introducing Wife to FemDom
Communication / Session Planning
Communication / Slave not submissive
Communication / Wife understands

Learning / Contracts and Rules
Learning / Training Hubby

to pick out just a few. When folk send in a post or question we
try to file it under all the relevant headings so folk can find
the most relevant topics later.

Why not send in a separate post on any of these or other topics
yourself, tell us more about you, your partner, and where it is
you want to go on your new bike? :-)

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com

The Fem Dom Training Software.
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S: In The Bank Manager's Cupboard. Part Thirty-three
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:57:46 +0000
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-three

When the lights were turned up, David heard Karin
pronounce, "There you see it. A clear breach of rule
five after he had been familiarised both with the
rules, and the severity of the punishments applicable."

They all agreed.

Karin smiled to the ladies conspiratorially, "I think
you will also agree that I will have no alternative but
to administer the severest chastisement."

David thought 'My God why did I not control myself'.

The other slaves present were all glad that it was not
one of them who were to suffer the 'severest' of
punishments. 'Toilet' was the only one who could have
no thoughts on the matter. With the doors closed
upstairs he had the indignity of being alone with his
predicament. He was obliged to smell, feel, taste and
think of only one thing.

While Catrina and Karin set about preparing for David's
flogging, Madam Kwai was relishing her treatment of
Adra. She had finished pinching her nipples and thighs
and had moved on to direct stimulation of Adra's
genitals. Adra was flushed with embarrassment at her
own unavoidable pleasure as Madam Kwai's fingers
insinuated themselves within her. By the time the
beating started, Adra was well on her way to her first
orgasm, moaning with the pleasuring that she was
powerless to resist.

Catrina had unlocked David's handcuffs and put her hand
into David's panties. She grabbed his genitalia and
squeezing she grinned, "We have you by the balls". She
led him into the study where Brian had been readied as
a punishment horse. Brian was kneeling on all fours,
David was bent across his back from the left side.
Karin locked David's left wrist to Brian's right wrist,
his right wrist to Brian's right ankle. A chain from
David's neck went under Brian's abdomen and tightly
around David's suspendered thighs, back to his neck.

David, now kneeling over Brian, could not escape his
punishment. Much as he might fight it, it would be in
Brian's interest to keep him in place, if he was to
avoid any stray strokes of David's chastisement.

Karin decided to start with the tawse as usual, "Rules
five and two. Let me see, five and two, I think that
makes fifty two strokes doesn't it?" She smiled at the
ladies, who all agreed that five and two did indeed
make fifty two.

"NO NOISE!" Karin ordered, speaking now to the
trembling David.

Long before the warming with the tawse was over, David
had to be gagged. Catrina did the necessary and Karin
thanked her. "Thank you Catrina. I think I will have to
add another fifty two with the crop for that
disobedience, what do you think?"

Catrina agreed sarcastically, "Yes, I think so Karin,
he must learn obedience, and you did specifically order
that he be quiet." They both knew of course that this
was only a charade, and that David would eventually
'deserve' far more than that.

Marique had enjoyed watching Adra's embarrassed orgasm,
and although watching the punishment was exciting, she
decided on a delightful diversion. Having obtained
Madam Kwai's approval she lubricated an eight inch
vibrator with KY jelly and gradually inserted it into
the 'Table'. When it was all the way home she turned it
on and sat back to watch both shows. It wasn't long
before Madam Kwai had to use her crop to correct the
incline of the 'Table'.

Marique then noticed that Pippa was unemployed and had
'her' come and kneel between her legs. Christine had
trained Pippa well and Marique was well pleased with
the services 'she' was able to offer with 'her' tongue.

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posted by: "Christine" at u4ds.com / MsChristine.com
posted on: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:57:46 +0000

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-three

When the lights were turned up, David heard Karin
pronounce, "There you see it. A clear breach of rule
five after he had been familiarised both with the
rules, and the severity of the punishments applicable."

They all agreed.

Karin smiled to the ladies conspiratorially, "I think
you will also agree that I will have no alternative but
to administer the severest chastisement."

David thought 'My God why did I not control myself'.

The other slaves present were all glad that it was not
one of them who were to suffer the 'severest' of
punishments. 'Toilet' was the only one who could have
no thoughts on the matter. With the doors closed
upstairs he had the indignity of being alone with his
predicament. He was obliged to smell, feel, taste and
think of only one thing.

While Catrina and Karin set about preparing for David's
flogging, Madam Kwai was relishing her treatment of
Adra. She had finished pinching her nipples and thighs
and had moved on to direct stimulation of Adra's
genitals. Adra was flushed with embarrassment at her
own unavoidable pleasure as Madam Kwai's fingers
insinuated themselves within her. By the time the
beating started, Adra was well on her way to her first
orgasm, moaning with the pleasuring that she was
powerless to resist.

Catrina had unlocked David's handcuffs and put her hand
into David's panties. She grabbed his genitalia and
squeezing she grinned, "We have you by the balls". She
led him into the study where Brian had been readied as
a punishment horse. Brian was kneeling on all fours,
David was bent across his back from the left side.
Karin locked David's left wrist to Brian's right wrist,
his right wrist to Brian's right ankle. A chain from
David's neck went under Brian's abdomen and tightly
around David's suspendered thighs, back to his neck.

David, now kneeling over Brian, could not escape his
punishment. Much as he might fight it, it would be in
Brian's interest to keep him in place, if he was to
avoid any stray strokes of David's chastisement.

Karin decided to start with the tawse as usual, "Rules
five and two. Let me see, five and two, I think that
makes fifty two strokes doesn't it?" She smiled at the
ladies, who all agreed that five and two did indeed
make fifty two.

"NO NOISE!" Karin ordered, speaking now to the
trembling David.

Long before the warming with the tawse was over, David
had to be gagged. Catrina did the necessary and Karin
thanked her. "Thank you Catrina. I think I will have to
add another fifty two with the crop for that
disobedience, what do you think?"

Catrina agreed sarcastically, "Yes, I think so Karin,
he must learn obedience, and you did specifically order
that he be quiet." They both knew of course that this
was only a charade, and that David would eventually
'deserve' far more than that.

Marique had enjoyed watching Adra's embarrassed orgasm,
and although watching the punishment was exciting, she
decided on a delightful diversion. Having obtained
Madam Kwai's approval she lubricated an eight inch
vibrator with KY jelly and gradually inserted it into
the 'Table'. When it was all the way home she turned it
on and sat back to watch both shows. It wasn't long
before Madam Kwai had to use her crop to correct the
incline of the 'Table'.

Marique then noticed that Pippa was unemployed and had
'her' come and kneel between her legs. Christine had
trained Pippa well and Marique was well pleased with
the services 'she' was able to offer with 'her' tongue.

Part Thirty-four is at:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/08/bank_managers_cupboard_34.shtml

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DOMestic web site. Support DOMestic, get your password.

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:41:19 -0000
From: "MaitresseX"

Does anyone on this list have experience with a slave contract?
If so please share your experiences.

Also, I am looking for a copy of a slave contract.

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:06:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: slaveboy

Hi All,

It's been quite some time since I have posted here such that
maybe no one remembers me. My Wife/Mistress and I have enjoyed
almost ten years of lifestyle D/s. I bought her our first
chastity device for our wedding and we took D/s vows, after the
actual wedding, in private.

Chastity has long had a deep hold on me, but after trying so
many different devices my Mistress settled on her favorite as
the Club Fem mcd because she liked the spikes and the pain I had
to endure with every arousal.

She enjoys using me for oral and she has redefined what "sex" is
for me.

For me, "sex" has been reduced to simple foot worship.
I once posted years ago on one of the ways she did this,
but I think it's worth retelling.

She would allow me to take my cage off, and then fetch the
petroleum jelly. She would often dress up for my "lesson in self
control" as she would call them. She would have me masturbate in
front of Her. She would tease me with her foot, dangling it and
pointing it at me and would order me to stop masturbating before
I could cum and then she would have me scurry over and kiss her
foot as she told me how nice it felt to have her feet kissed and
worshipped. I would be on the edge but unable to cum, with very
pleasant sensations going through me as I kissed and worshipped
her feet. After she was done, she would make me get back in the
cage and she would refer to my worship as my relief.

It was a long time until I was able to accept that I was being
conditioned to be sexless for her.

She had other, similar activities she would put me through, all
conditioning me to enjoy the pleasure of foot worship more and
more, which I learned to do in a serious way. She even began to
call me her eunuch, she said sex was only for her, and that
males are dirty and that making a "mess" in her bed was
disgusting and unacceptable.

It has evolved over the years to where we are now... "foreplay"
for me is now kissing her hand (first base) kissing Her down
there while she is clothed (second base) kissing her feet from
toes to ankle (third base) and, when she is pleased with me, she
will lift up her foot and allow me the intimacy and pleasure of
kissing the bottoms of her toes and feet (which is going all the
way).

When she wants me to pleasure her, after she is done, she always
sends me to her feet saying "you may have your pleasure now
slave". At this point, I find it intoxicating, mostly because of
all the conditioning and training to make me realign my wants to
her wishes, and now I find her feet are highly eroticized for
me.

Newest development:

She got me a new cage recently and things took a very different
turn after that. It's custom sized and when Mistress realized
how comfortable it was, she took everything a bit farther,
telling me that I am to stay in it for a year in her honor. She
made me take a vow that I would remain caged for the year as
long as there are no physical problems.

It's been over five weeks and I can hardly even feel that it's
there. I feel it is the best cage for many reasons. Mistress
loves it and the really cool thing is, neither of us had any
notion that very first time when she had me put it on that it
might actually stay on me forever, but that is what she has
since implied!! She said that as long as there is no reason to
remove it that it will stay on. The darn thing is so comfortable
it's amazing.

When she asked how it felt after a couple weeks in it, I told
her that it felt more like I had been gelded, because most of
the time it feels as if there's nothing there anymore. She
smiled and looked very pleased and said she liked that, adding,
"you do know that once a male is gelded there's no going back
for him" leading me to think that, should I make it for the
year, she'll have a little celebration or something to
acknowledge my 'achievement' and then expect me to continue on
as her eunuch.

New rules, implemented because of this new cage are;

I will remain caged as long as there are no physical reasons to
take it off (I can shave and clean myself easily because of it's
design)

I may not cum. To the end, if and when it happens I must consume
it, because the thought of that deters me from wanting to cum.
Because she says that my fluids must continue to build daily in
her honor, if there is some loss it must be consumed. If she
isn't there I must report it to her.

I must accept that it is disrespectful and disobedient to her if
I do cum and that I will be punished for doing so, in addition
to having to eat it.

I must exercise daily to work off frustration and stay in shape.

I must not bring up the subject of wanting to get out because I
took a vow to stay in it.

This is all true and is not a joke or a fantasy, nor is it
embellished. Has anyone else been kept chaste for such a long
time? (assuming I can do this).

Also, how long is the longest time anyone has gone w/o cumming?
I went the first 3 1/2 weeks but had some spillage in the early
morning 2 weeks ago and swallowed it for the first time in my
life... found it disgusting and don't want to do that again so
I'm trying my best to do as she wishes.

She calls me 'patience' now and says i'll earn the name
'chastity' if i can do this for a year.

Private emails are always appreciated.

herslaveboy_2000@yahoo.com
email address info

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From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:01:11 +0100

Hello,

In "how to be a better dominatrix" - "Willing to learn" wrote:

>I too am new to this whole thing.. and actually we tried it
>for the first time last night.. and well.. it ended up going
>nowhere...

That's fine, don't worry about it. Think of dominating a
submissive male as like learning to ride a bike (if you'll
excuse the analogy) - do you remember your first time on a
bicycle?

Most folk don't go anywhere the first time they sit on a
bicycle, you may go round in circles if you are lucky, and you
will most likely fall of a few times before you get the hang of
it. Some folk even have stabilisers (training wheels) or even a
parent holding the bike up. Although I think sitting on a guy's
face is quite a bit easier than staying upright on a bicycle.

Anyway, until you get your balance, think of DOMestic like the
dom/sub stabilisers. Ask questions here yourself and soon you'll
begin to get the hang of it even if you will not be ready to
head out or get up any speed on the main road. As you've just
discovered by reading a thread from 2008 any replies posted to
your questions now will also help others like yourself in the
future.

Where do you want to go with your new bicycle? Why did it not
get there? Did it a least start to go in the right direction?
What made you lose balance and fall off?

>Thank you all for your great advice, and any more you post!

To post more advice we need new questions. However, the "how to
be a better dominatrix" message you replied to was posted over a
year ago in June 2008, and there has been a lot of good advice
given on DOMestic before and since.

Your best way to access some of that advice is via the front
page of the blog at:-

http://u4ds.com/

and scan down the sections in the sidebar until you see a
subject which is appropriate or of interest.

For example, the section this post is filed under is....

Learning / To be Dominant at:-

http://u4ds.com/learning/to_be_dominant/

But there are lots of other topics that may interest you, too
many to give links to them all here.

Any time you need help there are 4 key strokes to get you
straight to DOMestic - u4ds - You can just type U4DS in most
search engines or browsers and you'll go straight to the front
page of the blog and you can then scan down the menu on the
right hand side to topics like....

Communication / Introducing Wife to FemDom
Communication / Session Planning
Communication / Slave not submissive
Communication / Wife understands

Learning / Contracts and Rules
Learning / Training Hubby

to pick out just a few. When folk send in a post or question we
try to file it under all the relevant headings so folk can find
the most relevant topics later.

Why not send in a separate post on any of these or other topics
yourself, tell us more about you, your partner, and where it is
you want to go on your new bike? :-)

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com

The Fem Dom Training Software.
Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.

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Re: C: how to be a better dominatrix
Date: 11 Jul 2009 17:38:50 -0000
From: Willing to learn....

I too am new to this whole thing.. and actually we tried it for
the first time last night.. and well.. it ended up going
nowhere...

Thank you all for your great advice, and any more you post!

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Re: C: Domestic Discipline - Disciplinary Wives
From: "bobbi-jo Morapedi"
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:59:24 -0400 (EDT)

Hello,

I haven't posted here in years, but as I have stuff on my mind,
I thought I would try to put it into words around this article.

David wrote:

>Our 30th anniversary was in June 2009. I mention this to
>demonstrate that FemDom can lead to longevity in relationships
>and it's not just about kinky sex games in the bedroom.

I have been with my Wife for 15 years (on and off). Femdom has
been a part of our lives sometimes but lots of, uhm, issues get
in the way.

>For some disciplinary wives it takes the form of a household
>regime with precise rules and regulations defined by the wife
>or dominant partner.

Or even for some naturally dominant women with sometimes
assertive husbands that want to submit but can't cope with
certain crazy tendencies or ideas they don't/can't agree with.

>Disciplinary rituals like daily spankings or mild floggings are
>indulged in by some, not as a punishment for an infraction of
>the rules, but simply as a reminder to the male submissive of
>the authority of his loving wife.

There was a period when our day started - and continued - like
that. Made it quite difficult to concentrate while in the
office!

>For other male subs, like myself, the pain is not directly a
>pleasurable physical sensation, far from it, but the surrender
>to strict feminine discipline is more of an emotional need. The
>female order, guidance and punishment for rules broken is so
>satisfying that the pain is not merely a price worth paying but
>is essential to making the female authority more real and
>apparent.

And that can be a feeling that simply doesn't go away. Even if
one believes the whole thing is male fantasy, selfishness,
stupid. When one knows the Woman needs to be protected from the
world, supported - needs to depend on strength in bad times.

>There is no need for a power struggle between them.

Would that it were always so.

>There are couples where the husband wishes to surrender to
>absolute control over his life, not just socially and sexually,
>but financially -snip- We tried it, and it wasn't quite right
>for us.

Seems to me that that isn't quite right for any person. YMMV.

>allow the relationship to grow and change, as many healthy
>relationships do over the years -snip- don't define what a
>FemDom relationship is like. Let it happen by being open and
>honest about your desires when she wants to talk about them
>and encourage her to know and understand what her needs and
>desires are.

As has been said, sometimes any expression of these desires can
be difficult.

Conventional sexual relationships, for me, are not so erotic as
Femdom ones. Right now my Wife desires sex more than i. i'm not
so aroused by her for conventional sex so fantasise about
others. Perhaps this is normal when couples are so familiar to
each other. Perhaps also when people change and for example
don't have the figure they had 10 years ago. So it is difficult
for me and i think She grows frustrated by this. There are other
factors as always but i won't digress.

Seems to me that my wife might have a much more rewarding sex
life if She took another stroll down the avenue of taking charge
in the bedroom etc. But we continued to negotiate about RL. It
is a fact that i would very soon be so focused on Her that i
wouldn't need to fantasise.

Hinting occurred to me - signing up her email address to
DOMestic or purchasing the training software. Some might do that
but it seems like that would be me forcing the issue and my
needs at the expense of Hers. Doesn't seem right.

So, i'm at an impasse - unable to honestly be the Dominant male
and satisfy her which She wants sometimes but couldn't really
live with as her nature is to be in charge. Unable to be the
submissive husband that She want's sometimes and that i know
would be rewarding for myself.

i recall the excitement a little while back when she remarked on
wanting a naked slave to come and clean all her shoes. So
naturally, i did that - cleaned and polished some 30 pairs.
Hoping maybe that she would take a step - but it didn't happen.

That's enough from me but there's not too much traffic on the
list so I don't feel too bad about rambling and haven't even
edited much as it probably says more about me if i don't. Lots
of folk on this list are insightful - i'd appreciate any
perspective.

In Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8, Christine wrote:

>Looking ahead to 2022 (another 13 years) we wonder whether
>we'll have some new technology going and be zapping it straight
>into your brains by then. :-)

Best to all and thanks for such a good resource - hope you're
around a lot longer still but am not really sure i want stuff
uploaded directly to my head yet!

manyana

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Re: C: good femdom retreat?
Date: 12 Jul 2009 18:58:56 -0000
From: Shadowlady

Recently I received a message from Mylady.

In it she indicated that the BDSM B&B in New Zealand the
wonderful House of Two is closing its doors on the 30th
September 2009. Unless, of course, it is sold as a going
concern.

As a previous guest of theirs I am sad to hear this news. It was
a great play area as well as a lovely setting.

Shadowlady

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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: 7 Jul 2009 20:36:50 -0000
From: "S"

M wrote:

>looking for some fresh new ideas that will make my slave
>squirm, blush, and be downright mortified with humiliation.

Why don't you keep his rear plugged with a buttplug for the
weekend, or get him a new piercing (nipples?). A humiliating
tattoo is nice, but you can't undo it easily (you can cover it
up with a bigger one later in some cases).

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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: 7 Jul 2009 21:17:12 -0000
From: subbie

M wrote:

>taking my slave to a weekend long outdoor SM event with 200
>other pervys -snip- He has a very small penis

I think a pretty little pink bow to "magnify" the tiny dick should do
nicely.

Have a great weekend of fun.

subbie

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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
From: PapaHertz69
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:54:46 EDT

Dear DOMestic enthusiasts:

I'm writing in reply to the Domme who wanted some humiliation
ideas for her SO during an outdoor camping BDSM experience. I
read somewhere years ago that a #6 fishing wire is practically
invisible.

[possibly #6; would one of the fishing capable readers please
correct for the size fishing wire that is practically invisible
against most backgrounds. T Y]

The article described the way a Domme controlled her slave
during a shopping excursion, either just to make sure he didn't
stray, or to 'humiliate' him by making his movements in
following her footsteps a 'herky-jerky' nature.

In the article, the Domme explained she tied the wire to his
cock, [probably to a ring, I just cannot recall, but I canNOT
imagine tying fishing line directly to a penis,] then threaded
it up and over the top of his pants, or shorts, as the case may
be; and then left about a six foot length which she grabbed the
end of, thus controlling his movements to some extent.

The humiliation was in the slave's awkward movements, either
trying to keep up with his wife, when she accelerated her pace
or, alternatively, not keeping the wire slack when she stopped
abruptly.

It seems to me the Domme might want, instead, to use one of
those ubiquitous dog leashes that can be extended or retracted
at will by the holder. Yes, I know being led on a leash is often
considered a treat, which a slave 'endures' proudly, but for
humiliation purposes, the ability to upset the slave's gait,
making his movements more than awkward, ridiculous in fact, to
me seems the height of humiliation. I hope this helps.

Papahertz,
sometime trainer of femmedomme wannabees.

[As I describe it, I seek women who, IMHO, have the 'chops' to
become outstanding pro or lifestyle dommes and, in most cases,
when they've allowed me to 'top from the bottom' [providing
feedback unattainable by any other mentor, male or female,] they
emerge as skilled dommes, and in one or two cases, outstanding
professional dominatrices.

I have found that the art of imposing humiliation upon a slave,
a submissive, or especially a paying client, to be one of the
signal abilities that can be brought out in a femme subject.
Much of it is verbal, consisting not only in how something is
said, but also the ways, including humor, in which the
humiliation is inflicted.

If I may be permitted a personal anecdote, please, at a femdom
party tried, unusually, on a Saturday morning in central Orange
County, there were five femdommes, mostly lifestyle, but with a
couple of prodommes who worked out of the host dungeon also
present, while I was the only sub who arrived promptly early on
the assigned morning.

Accordingly one of my all time fantasies, a 'gang rape' by
several authoritarian females took place. It was a rape in
theory only, for as we all know, everything in BDSM is 'SSC',
safe, sane, and above all, consensual. And further, since the
dungeon did not allow penetration, [for legal reasons, to avoid
similarity to, or actual, acts of prostitution. Please contact
me privately for an explanation of how some dungeons are able to
advertise 'anything goes' despite the legal opinion mentioned
above. My email addie is PapaHertz69@aol.com T Y,] What took
place was more properly a 'gang bang' in the loosest sense of
the word.

One of the femdoms was in a sense my Mistress for, at the time,
I was her 'house' security for sessions she took at a garage in
her home, made over into a first class dungeon. Mistress led me
to the stage in one of the dungeon rooms, bade me kneel on all
fours, and grabbing my 'package', [or privates, if you prefer,
to describe my C&B,] pulled them back behind me while attaching,
and locking, a "humbler" [write me also privately for a
description, if desired] atop and beneath the 'package'. This
left me particularly vulnerable to whatever ministrations the
ladies chose to apply.

Two of the ladies used wooden paddles upon my left cheek, two
others upon the right, all hitting me simultaneously. The
prodomme who administered humiliation in a delicate but also
hilarious way, stood behind me with a five or six foot whip,
more precisely known as a 'single tail'. Cracking me a few times
with it, she suddenly stopped and remarked, as explanation for
her quitting, "but it's SUCH a small target!" Nuff said. I did
NOT laugh, though I was 'sore' tempted.

Thank you ALL for your indulgence in allowing my extreme
verbosity in drawing out such a simple tale of a clever
humiliation. I know my imprecise manner of story telling can be
boring, but in this instance, I dawdled with purpose. I
invariably get a pleasant erection reliving the experience.

My pseudo 'gang rape' was one of the highlights of my ten - plus
years as a sometime subbie [I am an inveterate switch, having
tried in vain to follow advice I was given to come down on one
side, or the other, of the BDSM see-saw.]

PapaHertz69 aka s.a.m.

PapaHertz69@aol.com
email address info

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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: 8 Jul 2009 02:37:47 -0000
From: vince

M wrote:

>taking my slave to a weekend long outdoor SM event with 200
>other pervys

I am wondering where the event is going to be, and yes thinking
of being naked and plugged and even a bow would be so
humiliating for three days, but also wonderful. Would love to be
there.

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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: 8 Jul 2009 09:59:17 -0000
From: rudysroost

You could paint all twenty of his nails bright red, keep him on
a leash and collar and invite everyone you meet to sign him with
a permanent marker. Perhaps plan a punishment if he doesn't
collect at least one hundred signatures.

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Re: C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:26:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Jones

Since I also am embarrassingly small (but not that small),
please allow me to suggest what would be humiliating to me.
Perhaps these are not fresh ideas for you, so take them for what
they are:

1) Make up a flyer prior to the event announcing a certain time
that your sub will be on display. Prominent in this hand-out
will be something like "Come see the world's smallest cock." The
day of the event, your sub will be bound and hooded, so that he
will be able to hear all who come to look, hear their comments
and laughter, but not be able to see who is looking.

2) If you are into forced fem, have him wear panties and bra as
he goes around the event handing out the flyers announcing his
pending display. In any case, he should be required to hand out
the flyers.

3) Make a t-shirt, cap, or banner announcing "World's smallest."

4) Make him carry a ruler wherever he goes as a reminder of his
small size.

5) Have him apologize to other Dommes in attendance for his lack
of manliness, "I am sorry, Mistress, that you should have to
witness something as pathetic as my tiny pee-pee."

Have fun! Tom

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Re: P: San Antonio, Texas - submissive females
Date: 8 Jul 2009 14:25:39 -0000
From: Roger

Can someone help me get in contact with submissive females in
San Antonio?

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C: how to find and meet like minded kinky people
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:04:33 +0100

Hello,

This message might serve as a guide-line to folk in all areas of
the world, but I'll use Roger's recent message as an example.

In Re: P: San Antonio, Texas - submissive females

Roger wrote:

>Can someone help me get in contact with submissive females

You'll make more progress if you put a bit of effort in yourself
and don't post short messages to DOMestic. Before posting any
message here it's best to read the guidelines on posting (see
below).

If you don't want to post your contact details on the web,
you'll have to go looking for places to meet people in your
area. First look in the right hand menu of the DOMestic blog
for:-

Meeting Others

and, in your specific case, under that you'll see a link for USA,
and beneath that you'll find links for:-

Texas

which might be all you need?

But beneath that you will see links for:-

Dallas/Ft Worth
Houston

If that is not close enough to you, or there is nothing on the
blog that you find useful in your area then you could try a
Google search for something like:-

Kink Munches San Antonio Texas

A "munch" is usually a day-time social gathering of like minded
people, and I see some possibly useful results display for that
search on Google.

If you do find local munches in your area, then do everyone a
favour and post details of your experience with the ones you
attend to the blog and make the DOMestic resource more useful
for everyone.

Also on the right hand menu of the blog are personal ads.

If you want to advertise with a personal ad on DOMestic then I
suggest reading the guidelines thoroughly in the admin section,
again see the right hand menu of the DOMestic blog, for:-

Posting

Personal Ads FAQ

Making Direct Contact

That last one is very important as we will not display your
email address unless you send your post in by email from the
address you wish displayed, and if your email does not display
here then folk can't contact you.

Then take your time and carefully write, spell-check and edit a
long and sincere introduction for the P: section of the digest
(personal ads).

Be sure to avoid brief descriptions, women want to know all
about you, your hopes, desires, interests and ambitions in life,
not just the sex.

As the DOMestic blog is all about dom/sub - one could argue that
dom/sub will be taken for granted. So having established what
your orientation is (dominant) and gender is (male), it's more
important to discuss the things other than dom/sub that interest
you and the things which might attract a partner.

You've already told us where you are, which is an improvement
over some messages we receive. For anyone else reading this, be
sure to mention where you are in the world. As the DOMestic blog
and mailing list is international.

sincerely,
Christine

The DOMestic discussion list. Now in our thirteenth year. The
password site now has over 6,700 files with well over 400
stories, plus pictures, and hundreds of articles. $26.99 for a
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Re: C: how to find and meet like minded kinky people
Date: 11 Jul 2009 19:10:40 -0000
From: sonia mileu

hi,

im a very dominant lady. enjoy fetish, femdom and kink. want a
submissive playmate. tell me more? where do u stay, etc?

mistress sonia

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Re: C: how to find and meet like minded kinky people
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:14:38 +0100

Hello,

Someone claiming to be "mistress sonia", and using the name
"sonia mileu", and trying to post an email address "smfun40" on a
well known free email system wrote:

>im a very dominant lady. enjoy fetish, femdom and kink. want a
>submissive playmate. tell me more? where do u stay, etc?

And I've only posted the message to demonstrate the kind of
scams you'll likely see posted without comment on un-moderated
systems, and in the hope that anyone doing a Google search on
those items of "her" identity quoted above will get this scam
warning in their results when Google picks up this post in a day
or two.

The message included an email address in the comments area
posted via the blog form, despite the form saying not to do
that, and despite the form stating that the email address will
be deleted.

Why did the person not state their location in the world, even
when specifically replying to a message in which the first
paragraph was

"This message might serve as a guide-line to folk in all areas
of the world"

and the last paragraph was....

"For anyone else reading this, be sure to mention where you are
in the world. As the DOMestic blog and mailing list is
international."

One might just assume that the person didn't read, and that this
is just stupidity. However I'm certain in my mind that it's just
another scammer who doesn't bother to read anything and will
probably post dozens of similar messages in the near future
using the same and other identities.

Using a simple and free tool we can easily establish that the IP
information for the address used to post is located somewhere
around Kimberley in South Africa.

A link for the IP address with Google Map

No doubt the scammer, by not posting their own location in their
ad, is intending to entice folk from anywhere in the world, on the
assumption that the fictitious "mistress" is perhaps near them.

No doubt the request for replies giving information "tell me
more? where do u stay, etc?" is intended to be the first stage
in one of the now common online scams which ends up milking the
victims.

It's not the first time we've exposed such an obvious scammer,
and warned folk to be careful whom they trust. But occasionally
a reminder does no harm.

This person also presumably didn't read this phrase:-

"If you want to advertise with a personal ad on DOMestic then I
suggest reading the guidelines thoroughly in the admin section"

But if genuine folk want to advertise on DOMestic, you'll find
some useful links and guidelines here:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/meet_like_minded_kinky_people.shtml

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com

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password site now has over 6,700 files with well over 400
stories, plus pictures, and hundreds of articles. $26.99 for a
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S: In The Bank Manager's Cupboard. Part Thirty-two
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:33:27 +0100

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-two

Sadine had been holding off most of the afternoon
waiting for this session. As soon as 'Toilet' was
locked in place she lowered her leather trousers and
with a sigh of relief emptied her full bladder upon
him. Karin had motioned to leave, but Sadine had
indicated she should stay and watch.

Karin laughed, "Oh! that's beautiful, Toilet is shaking
his head and spluttering around his gag. I think the
ball makes the urine go up his nose and around the
edges into his mouth."

Sadine dug her heels into 'Toilet's' chest, "Stay still
Toilet", she ordered.

Karin approved, "Do you know it's almost as much fun
watching from here as it is sitting and doing it! I'm
so glad they made it in see through perspex, one would
miss so much otherwise."

Sadine agreed, remaining seated even after she had
finished. "It's quite beautiful, this is the first time I've
used one of these see through commodes and I would
like to be able to see 'Toilet' suffer too."

Karin was more than happy to oblige. "I would love to
Sadine, it would be MY PLEASURE".

'Toilet' had not been in Karin's apartment for much
more than half an hour. Already he had suffered the
ultimate humiliation, twice!

Karin and Sadine had come downstairs obviously
exhilarated and delighted. The ladies were talking
quietly and were enthusiastic when they discovered the
source of Sadine and Karin's merriment.

It was at this time that the intercom had announced the
arrival of Catrina, and after she had been served a drink
by 'Pippa' a discussion ensued about the merits of the
'Facility ' upstairs.

It transpired that Catrina had also ordered one from Kayser
Novelty, the supplier of the 'Perspex See Thru Loo'.

Part of the fun for the ladies in these gatherings is
in subjecting the slaves to hearing themselves
discussed. The ladies find they can, simply by chatting
and socialising cause so much suffering. The slave's
ego is constantly reduced without requiring the least
effort on the part of the dominant.

Catrina asked Sadine, "Would you mind if I gave your
'Toilet' a taste of my golden rain?"

Sadine gave her consent, "Of course Catrina, and all of
you, that's what it's there for. Please feel free to
use it at your leisure".

Catrina turned to Karin, "Oh, by the way, I caught the
'Door Opener' lusting after me. Would you permit me to
punish it later?"

Karin approved, "Most certainly, I must give it a
severe punishment later anyway, would you like to go
first?"

Catrina smiled sadistically, "If you are giving it a
severe punishment, then I would prefer to go second.
More pain for less effort!"

This caused general hilarity amongst the ladies and
Christine enquired of Karin,

"What is it being punished for?"

Karin informed her of David's misbehaviour of the
previous night, "A heinous crime indeed, breaches of
rules two and five!"

Marique asked, "Rules two and five?"

Karin explained her regulation to general approbation,
she explained her video system and the use she had
made of it. The ladies were all delighted.

Karin then suggested she open the evening of entertainment
with a video show. She had edited together all of her footage
of David's cell, and dubbed on an explanatory and tongue
in cheek commentary.

Karin had Pippa dim the lights and put on the tape.
Karin's sadistic comments had the company in fits of
laughter, much to David's chagrin. From his position at
the door David could hear almost everything in the
study.

To be discussed in the fashion that he had overheard
was insulting, but the ridicule of Karin's show, the derisory
laughter of the ladies, was humiliating. He was treated to
the full sound track, Karin's commentary, his own moans
and cries. He couldn't actually see the show, but he could
easily imagine what they were seeing.

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posted by: "Christine" at u4ds.com / MsChristine.com
posted on: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:33:27 +0100

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-two

Sadine had been holding off most of the afternoon
waiting for this session. As soon as 'Toilet' was
locked in place she lowered her leather trousers and
with a sigh of relief emptied her full bladder upon
him. Karin had motioned to leave, but Sadine had
indicated she should stay and watch.

Karin laughed, "Oh! that's beautiful, Toilet is shaking
his head and spluttering around his gag. I think the
ball makes the urine go up his nose and around the
edges into his mouth."

Sadine dug her heels into 'Toilet's' chest, "Stay still
Toilet", she ordered.

Karin approved, "Do you know it's almost as much fun
watching from here as it is sitting and doing it! I'm
so glad they made it in see through perspex, one would
miss so much otherwise."

Sadine agreed, remaining seated even after she had
finished. "It's quite beautiful, this is the first time I've
used one of these see through commodes and I would
like to be able to see 'Toilet' suffer too."

Karin was more than happy to oblige. "I would love to
Sadine, it would be MY PLEASURE".

'Toilet' had not been in Karin's apartment for much
more than half an hour. Already he had suffered the
ultimate humiliation, twice!

Karin and Sadine had come downstairs obviously
exhilarated and delighted. The ladies were talking
quietly and were enthusiastic when they discovered the
source of Sadine and Karin's merriment.

It was at this time that the intercom had announced the
arrival of Catrina, and after she had been served a drink
by 'Pippa' a discussion ensued about the merits of the
'Facility ' upstairs.

It transpired that Catrina had also ordered one from Kayser
Novelty, the supplier of the 'Perspex See Thru Loo'.

Part of the fun for the ladies in these gatherings is
in subjecting the slaves to hearing themselves
discussed. The ladies find they can, simply by chatting
and socialising cause so much suffering. The slave's
ego is constantly reduced without requiring the least
effort on the part of the dominant.

Catrina asked Sadine, "Would you mind if I gave your
'Toilet' a taste of my golden rain?"

Sadine gave her consent, "Of course Catrina, and all of
you, that's what it's there for. Please feel free to
use it at your leisure".

Catrina turned to Karin, "Oh, by the way, I caught the
'Door Opener' lusting after me. Would you permit me to
punish it later?"

Karin approved, "Most certainly, I must give it a
severe punishment later anyway, would you like to go
first?"

Catrina smiled sadistically, "If you are giving it a
severe punishment, then I would prefer to go second.
More pain for less effort!"

This caused general hilarity amongst the ladies and
Christine enquired of Karin,

"What is it being punished for?"

Karin informed her of David's misbehaviour of the
previous night, "A heinous crime indeed, breaches of
rules two and five!"

Marique asked, "Rules two and five?"

Karin explained her regulation to general approbation,
she explained her video system and the use she had
made of it. The ladies were all delighted.

Karin then suggested she open the evening of entertainment
with a video show. She had edited together all of her footage
of David's cell, and dubbed on an explanatory and tongue
in cheek commentary.

Karin had Pippa dim the lights and put on the tape.
Karin's sadistic comments had the company in fits of
laughter, much to David's chagrin. From his position at
the door David could hear almost everything in the
study.

To be discussed in the fashion that he had overheard
was insulting, but the ridicule of Karin's show, the derisory
laughter of the ladies, was humiliating. He was treated to
the full sound track, Karin's commentary, his own moans
and cries. He couldn't actually see the show, but he could
easily imagine what they were seeing.

Part Thirty-three is at:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/bank_managers_cupboard_33.shtml

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From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:04:33 +0100

Hello,

This message might serve as a guide-line to folk in all areas of
the world, but I'll use Roger's recent message as an example.

In Re: P: San Antonio, Texas - submissive females

Roger wrote:

>Can someone help me get in contact with submissive females

You'll make more progress if you put a bit of effort in yourself
and don't post short messages to DOMestic. Before posting any
message here it's best to read the guidelines on posting (see
below).

If you don't want to post your contact details on the web,
you'll have to go looking for places to meet people in your
area. First look in the right hand menu of the DOMestic blog
for:-

Meeting Others

and in your specific case under that you'll see a link for USA,
and beneath that you'll find links for:-

Texas

which might be all you need?

But beneath that you will see links for:-

Dallas/Ft Worth
Houston

If that is not close enough to you, or there is nothing on the
blog that you find useful in your area then you could try a
Google search for something like:-

"Kink Munches San Antonio Texas"

A "munch" is usually a day-time social gathering of like minded
people, and I see some possibly useful results display for that
search on Google.

If you do find local munches in your area, then do everyone a
favour and post details of your experience with the ones you
attend to the blog and make the DOMestic resource more useful
for everyone.

Also on the right hand menu of the DOMestic blog are personal ads.

If you want to advertise with a personal ad on DOMestic then I
suggest reading the guidelines thoroughly in the admin section,
again see the right hand menu of the DOMestic blog, for:-

Posting

Personal Ads FAQ

Making Direct Contact

That last one is very important as we will not display your
email address unless you send your post in by email from the
address you wish displayed, and if your email does not display
here then folk can't contact you.

Then take your time and carefully write, spell-check and edit a
long and sincere introduction for the P: section of the digest
(personal ads).

Be sure to avoid brief descriptions, women want to know all
about you, your hopes, desires, interests and ambitions in life,
not just the sex.

As the DOMestic blog is all about dom/sub - one could argue that
dom/sub will be taken for granted. So having established what
your orientation is (dominant) and gender is (male), it's more
important to discuss the things other than dom/sub that interest
you and the things which might attract a partner.

You've already told us where you are, which is an improvement
over some messages we receive. For anyone else reading this, be
sure to mention where you are in the world. As the DOMestic blog
and mailing list is international.

sincerely,
Christine

The DOMestic discussion list. Now in our thirteenth year. The
password site now has over 6,700 files with well over 400
stories, plus pictures, and hundreds of articles. $26.99 for a
one year password. $16.99 for six months at:-
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# Re: C: willing lickslave - what next? x 3
# C: Domestic Discipline - Disciplinary Wives
# Re: P: command me to perform rimming - Jacksonville
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# Re: P: San Antonio, Texas - submissive females
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C: humiliation ideas needed
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:54:22 -0400
From: "M"

Hi Christine,

I have a question for the group. I am taking my slave to a
weekend long outdoor SM event with 200 other pervys on 300 acres
with unlimited toys, dungeons, cages, etc. We have been there
before and anything goes. I am looking for some fresh new ideas
that will make my slave squirm, blush, and be downright
mortified with humiliation.

When we are not in scene he begs me to stretch his limits and I
want to do just that. We are not into pain, just D/S and
humiliation play. He has a very small penis and no body hair.
When his penis is flaccid it may not even be one inch, so in and
of itself, being naked and on display for 3 days is humiliating
for him.

So anyway, if anyone has any ideas to add to his shame and my
enjoyment, I welcome your thoughts.

M

(Please don't post my e-mail address.)

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Re: C: willing lickslave - what next?
Date: 5 Jul 2009 18:22:22 -0000
From: bianconiglio

judy wrote:

>do i pursue more as in rules for my lickslave to follow or just
>keep things the way they are? As of now, i also control when he
>is permitted to cum which is no more than once a month

Judy, great you are asking this... I am, as a sub, in this kind
of situation... it seems She is also wondering how to proceed...
I am very curious what suggestions you will get!

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Re: C: willing lickslave - what next?
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:59:27 +0100
From: "David" at u4ds.com

Hello,

judy wrote:

>i have myself a very willing lickslave who has serviced me
>well

How long have you had him? Does he live in? Does he go out to
work, or is he a full time domestic servant? You will see below
why those questions help us to determine what kind of ideas to
suggest.

>i also keep myself two lovers who i see weekly and upon them
>leaving, i require the use of my lickslave.

Lucky lickslave! The "clean up after" is fantasy of many male
subs. You can see me being required to do such a clean up in our
Goddess video at:-

http://www.mschristine.com/goddessp.shtml

>what i would like to know, where do i go from here?

Where would you like to go? Why do you ask? Is it because you
are looking for ideas to increase your own fun? Or do you sense
some need in him to be taken further? If we knew which, it might
help to answer your next question which is...

>i enjoy what i have now, do i pursue more as in rules for my
>lickslave to follow or just keep things the way they are?

If you enjoy things as they are now, and if he's happy, then why
change anything? Don't fix it if it ain't broke.

However, rules can be a fun way to increase the pressure on a
sub, they can be useful ways to change his behaviour, if there
is something you would like to change, and they can also be a
good reason or just an excuse to punish and spank for failure.
Also sometimes plainly silly rules can be a lot of fun.

If he's a live in lickslave then a silly rule might be something
like "always kiss the floor when you enter a room" - and at
breakfast time you can be watching him try to remember to leap
up from munching on his cornflakes to kiss the kitchen floor as
you enter and leave the room a few times during your morning
routine.

By the time one of you leaves for work a few punishment points
may have been accumulated to allow for some fun when it's time
to get together again in the evening.

If he's not a live in slave then you can impose rules on his
morning and evening routines and question him upon your next
meeting as to whether he obeyed them. Perhaps give him a pair of
your panties which he has to keep in a pocket and take out and
kiss every time he enters or leaves any room at his home. (you
might extend this to his office or work with some caution
depending on his circumstances)

>i also control when he is permitted to cum which is no more
>than once a month as that seems to keep him with a strong
>desire to service me

Yes indeed, tease and denial is a powerful motivator. You
mention the denial element in limiting him to once a month. But
would you enjoy provoking a failure to obey that restriction by
increasing the tease element? Maybe as a way to provoke an
excuse to punish?

If so, you might require regular masturbation without orgasm, to
increase his frustration and put temptation in his path. Perhaps
supervised if you live together, or at pre-ordained times and
situations if you live apart. For example have him masturbate in
the bathroom at work three times every day, almost to the point
of ejaculation, but without actually cumming.

>Any suggestions?

Lots, and if you care to tell us more, I'm sure other folk will
chip in with theirs.

sincerely,
David

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Re: C: willing lickslave - what next?
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:38:50 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello,

David wrote:

>watching him try to remember to leap up from munching on his
>cornflakes to kiss the kitchen floor

Oh David! I'm surprised you forgot to mention my favourite
breakfast routine, see below....

>masturbate in the bathroom at work three times every day,
>almost to the point of ejaculation, but without actually
>cumming.

Before he goes to work, have him masturbate under the kitchen
table, out of sight, while you enjoy your own cornflakes and the
coffee he previously prepared for you. His instructions should
be to kiss your feet silently, but only when he is unable to
continue without 'spurting', as a way of asking for permission
to ejaculate.

When you've finished your breakfast you just get up and tell him
something like, "Good boy, not today, go and get dressed for
work now, you can ask for permission again tomorrow."

If he's going out to work, remember to tell him to behave
himself during the day and question him in the evening. Any
failure brings punishment, and of course prolongs the time until
he get's his reward day, when he will eventually be granted
permission.

Perhaps that reward might be to go to the bathroom with
instructions to look in the laundry basket for something to
sniff while he 'spurts' like the "dirty boy that he is".

sincerely, Christine

The Fem Dom Training Software.
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C: Domestic Discipline - Disciplinary Wives
From: "David" at u4ds.com
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:08:50 +0100

Disciplinary Wives and the Domestic Discipline they administer.
by David (see "Author's Note" at the foot of this post)

I'm David, I'm a male submissive, and Christine is my lifetime
partner. Christine made me happy by becoming my disciplinary
wife some 30 years ago in 1979. Our 30th anniversary was in June
2009. I mention this to demonstrate that FemDom can lead to
longevity in relationships and it's not just about kinky sex
games in the bedroom.

Rather than talk only about us I want to explore in this brief
article some of the many facets of "Domestic Discipline" and
"Disciplinary Wives". Domestic Discipline may be practiced by
other couples, where the male is defined as the dominant
partner, and I've no doubt that works for some, but here I'm
primarily discussing FemDom relationships.

For many submissive males and their dominant partners or wives,
domestic discipline is fundamental to their loving FemDom
relationship. For some disciplinary wives it takes the form of a
household regime with precise rules and regulations defined by
the wife or dominant partner. The rules allow the male
submissive to surrender to the authority of a female who he may
passionately desire to accept as his natural superior.

Even when the couple do not subscribe to a female supremacy
philosophy or political viewpoint, they can often find release
and joy in living a FemDom lifestyle which expresses the
superiority of just one woman. She may be his Goddess in their
relationship and this may provide the raison d'etre

Whatever the basis or framework is for them. A hierarchical
structure can exist which allows for her, as the disciplinary
wife, to control their daily lives.

Many couples who would oppose the use of corporal punishment in
the wider society, will nevertheless find such disciplinary
methods are essential to enforce the wife's authority in their
private marital relationship. The domestic discipline can be
mild or harsh.

Disciplinary rituals like daily spankings or mild floggings are
indulged in by some, not as a punishment for an infraction of
the rules, but simply as a reminder to the male submissive of
the authority of his loving wife.

For such FemDom couples spanking can be an act of intimacy that
is more intense and satisfying than a kiss and a cuddle. It may
be a way to mark the end of the working day or week with
something to set the mood back into "home" mode.

The dominant wife might send the husband to take a shower when
he comes home from work on a Friday night, with an instruction
along the lines of "get yourself cleaned up dear, I want to give
you your weekly spanking before we go out for dinner."

Other couples will use more harsh punitive measures like the,
slipper, the tawse, the cane or even a riding crop or whip as a
direct punishment for particular offences or breaches of a set
of rules.

There are many submissive male husbands who physically crave
such treatment, often known as pain sluts or masochists, for
whom ritual discipline sessions may be seen as a rewarding
experience, physically releasing endorphins which cause them to
feel those body chemicals as an emotional 'high' during the
experience.

For other male subs, like myself, the pain is not directly a
pleasurable physical sensation, far from it, but the surrender
to strict feminine discipline is more of an emotional need. The
female order, guidance and punishment for rules broken is so
satisfying that the pain is not merely a price worth paying but
is essential to making the female authority more real and
apparent.

Whatever the style of "Domestic Discipline" a particular couple
indulges in, however mild or harsh the disciplinary methods, for
them the lifestyle can be real FemDom. Such couples may have
made an overt agreement to have a FemDom relationship. But for
others it's just natural for the woman to be the authority
figure in the household, and her disciplinary nature rules their
day to day life without acknowledging it as being something
called FemDom.

For some couples there are clearly defined boundaries where
certain types of behaviour have consequences. Male masturbation
is often strictly frowned upon and controlled by disciplinary
wives. For others the behaviours controlled may be more simple
things like not leaving the toilet seat up or controlling his
smoking and drinking.

When the lady of the house is a disciplinary wife, the rules of
the house could be enforced by her permanently and 24/7 but not
necessarily overtly. For many submissive male husbands, a stern
look from the dominant wife is all that is needed to keep him in
line especially if he knows that she has the power to take him
over her knee whenever she wants, and that she will use that
power.

Other disciplinary wives prefer to control their husbands by
restricting his spending money, controlling other privileges, or
even by restricting rewards like permission to make love or
granting him a special treat like female supervised masturbation
only when he has been a "good boy".

Even if micro-management is not the order of the day, what often
differentiates this type of relationship from a hen-pecked
husband and nagging wife is the overt agreement to accept the
"carrot" and the "stick" as part of the system of control.
Nagging is never necessary if obedience is guaranteed.

Whether you prefer the "carrot" or the "stick" as an approach to
guarantee the obedience of the male, sometimes exercising the
power to impose a physical punishment is more effective and
useful from time to time to reinforce the knowledge that he
needs evidence of. The knowledge that his Disciplinary Wife is
in overall control.

Domestic discipline can allow both partners in a relationship to
express their fundamental natures in a more overt manner than is
conventional and for male submissives and dominant females this
is a recipe for true happiness for the couple.

Because both partners know where they stand, (or kneel) it
enables them to escape the disagreements or tensions that less
clearly defined "conventional" relationships may suffer from.
Thus the loving and nurturing relationship flowers and blooms in
a way that many modern households don't experience.

There is no need for a power struggle between them. Typical
gender roles are not imposed upon them by their acceptance of
cultural norms. The submissive husband is free to accept the
dominant wife's role as a mentor and protector as well as the
disciplinarian if he wishes. Indeed she may be the breadwinner
in the household as well.

Alternatively, he may fulfil the role of both mentor and
protector for her, yet accept her authority and power to have
the last word - whichever gender is in the bread-winning role.

The point is that their relationship is not defined by cultural
norms whether conventional or learned from internet web sites.
Instead their relationship is defined by her rules, or at the
very least her disciplinarian role, which they have mutually
accepted and/or agreed upon.

There are couples where the husband wishes to surrender to
absolute control over his life, not just socially and sexually,
but financially. Indeed I suggested this as the ideal to
Christine 30 years ago when we first met because I thought it
was what I wanted and needed. We tried it, and it wasn't quite
right for us.

We've found that it's important not to accept other people's
definitions, or even your own first ideas of what FemDom means,
as though it's set in stone. Instead try and define quite
precisely which aspects will work for both of you in your own
relationship. This may mean that by trial and error you will
find what works best for you, and this should allow the
relationship to grow and change, as many healthy relationships
do over the years.

In a loving relationship where the dominant wife controls and
corrects for both his and their mutual benefit an intense level
of trust can enhance the marriage in ways that other
conventional relationships may not always benefit from. Male
submission to loving female control is empowering to both and
brings the couple closer in ways which some conventional couples
would find hard to understand.

If poetic love is in essence a form of submission, and if mature
love is respect for each others needs wants and desires, then
with domestic discipline there is a mechanism by which a
disciplinary wife can show respect and love through his need to
surrender to her.

Some folk are troubled by the details of how they will be able
to enjoy this lifestyle in the presence of others, and how they
should act in public. The answer for me is simple, act
naturally.

I'm not going to "misbehave" in public, but if I did and
Christine said "you'll regret that when I get you home", the
public would likely see it as a joke, and only I would enjoy the
knowledge that I will probably "regret" it, when I get home.

How does a loving father behave in front of the kids? He defers
to the loving mother, and if she requires he show the kids a
firm fatherly manner, he will find it easier to do so with her
full support.

What happens at family dinners? You eat!

Afterwards the submissive male will appear to be quite dominant
in his insistence on doing the washing up, and will brook no
nonsense about stacking it all in the dishwasher instead. Unless
and until, of course, the disciplinary wife insists upon it.
Then he will quite graciously accept. Either way whether he
washes the dishes or stacks them in the dishwasher it's a win
win situation.

What do you do when going out with friends? In my experience you
do just the same as everyone else does. The public will only see
what they want to see. The submissive male and his disciplinary
wife look like any other couple until he is over her knee, and
that's not likely to happen when you are out with friends.

There are folk who suggest that some couples are totally open
about their lifestyle, while others maintain a secretive way of
life which they only practice behind closed doors. In my
experience, for us, neither is precisely true and and I don't
think either needs to be true.

I don't expect other people to broadcast all the details of
their relationships to all and sundry, or indeed to me. Nor do
Christine and I feel the need to broadcast our intimate details
in social interaction.

We are perhaps unusual in that we are "out" publicly on the web,
but strangely that has little or no effect on our relationships
with family and friends, either because those that do know would
rather not know, or they don't care, or quite simply they don't
know because they don't visit "kinky" web sites.

For most couples this will not be an issue because most FemDom
couples don't have web sites where they publish the details of
their lives anyway. Most FemDom couples would probably use
common sense and not use their real names when posting messages
on web sites. But even if they did not use common sense, their
friends would not necessarily see their posts.

It is not always clear to others who makes the final decision in
our relationship. But like many married couples, it would not be
at all unusual for the husband to leave the final decision on
anything the public or friends interacted with or observed to
the wife. Whether it's normal or conventional to defer to my
partner I don't really know or care, it's what I do.

There is no one true way to do FemDom, and there is no simple
definition of "Domestic Discipline" it is what the couple wants
it to be. If you have the good fortune to be the husband of a
"Disciplinary Wife" then you will likely know how intensely
satisfying it is to be disciplined by her.

If your wife has yet to grow into her role as your Goddess or
disciplinarian then don't rush her, and don't define what a
FemDom relationship is like. Let it happen by being open and
honest about your desires when she wants to talk about them and
encourage her to know and understand what her needs and desires
are.

It's unlikely that you met in a slave market, and if you did not
it's equally unlikely that she will find your slavery is a role
which immediately appeals to her. But a loving husband who is
prepared to accept her discipline and control in the way she
wishes to express it is something she may find more to her
taste.

Communication will be essential between you to establish a way
to do it that is satisfying to both of you. It has to be
satisfying to you both, or it will not be likely to be
satisfying to either.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Author's note:

The article above is my own original article but I think most
fairly described as "re-written by me" after seeing one entitled
"Domestic Discipline" which is currently posted on multiple web
pages. (on perhaps a dozen different web sites)

Although I was inspired to write on the subject myself, we were
unable to post that "Domestic Discipline" article for me to
discuss and reply to here without being certain that we had the
author's permission.

Whenever we are in doubt about the copyright permissions for
articles submitted for inclusion on DOMestic we use Google to
check for identical material posted elsewhere. We understand
that the "Domestic Discipline" article may have originated at
"yesmistress" (dot) "org" as this is the first site in our
Google search results linked here.

In my own article I have only used a few phrases from the
original in order to expand upon, discuss and question some of
the ideas.

I trust I have managed to open the subject for discussion here
on DOMestic while giving credit where due to the original work
via an indirect Google link.

If the author of the "Domestic Discipline" article referred to
above wishes to post it here with a statement of his right to
publish, we will of course be pleased to link to the source
directly.

sincerely,
David at u4ds.com

The Fem Dom Training Software.
Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.

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Re: P: command me to perform rimming - Jacksonville
Date: 6 Jul 2009 14:43:43 -0000
From: pussikat steve

Madamplz wrote:

>he'd be able to somersault through a hoop, hump your leg on the
>fly, and finish with a perfect landing, face first in the cleft
>of your derriere

Wot no hurdles??

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P: San Antonio, Texas - submissive females
From: "Roger Rodriguez"
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:22:39 -0500

Just wondering if there are any submissive females in the San
Antonio area.

Thanks

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Re: P: San Antonio, Texas - submissive females
Date: 6 Jul 2009 22:51:57 -0000
From: Rose Payne

Yes, there are submissive females in the San Antonio area.

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Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:22:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom

David wrote:

>it's possible that you have spam filtering which is blocking
>all but the DOMestic digest -snip- If you received the upgrade,
>then please let us know that it worked

Dear Ms Christine and david,

Thank you both for the software and the note in newsletter. Yup
it was all in my spam folder. All working now!

BTW is it only 13 yrs, I thought you folks had something on
Usenet back in the late 80's, am I mistaken?

Cheers.. Tom

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Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:40:52 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello,

Tom wrote:

>Yup it was all in my spam folder

Maybe it's time I mentioned "Whitelisting" again. There is a
useful article which covers many major systems, and how to
whitelist the email you want linked at:-

http://u4ds.com/whitelist_your_domestic.shtml

You might want to mark these domains as safe:-

topica.com
yahoogroups.com
Ms-Christine.com
MsChristine.com

If you don't get an email you are expecting from us it's never
because we haven't replied. We usually respond within a few
hours, and never take more than 48 hours.

>All working now!

I figured it would. I guess you are also using ie8 on XP.

>BTW is it only 13 yrs, I thought you folks had something on
>Usenet back in the late 80's, am I mistaken?

In the 80s we were sending out newsletters by printing them out
using an old Commodore computer, addressing envelopes and
sticking stamps on them. That was before the internet ever came
to town, but not much of our work survives from back then.

Yes we were present and posting on Usenet, asfd, asb et cetera
before we started DOMestic but not as far back as the 80s. We
were itching to get on but the internet didn't get to Portugal
until the mid 90s when we joined everything that was going and
set up a web site on free server space offered by a friend.

DOMestic only started as a private email group at the end of
September 1996 but we didn't send out the first email digests
until October. We didn't get our first domain name
Ms-Christine dot com to run the email system properly until
2nd January 1997.

DOMestic was started on the Onelist system as soon as it was
formed because it was getting too big to send it all out via our
domain email. We ran a copy on Egroups when they started up, and
then on Yahoogroups when Yahoo took them both over. Then, as a
precaution because Yahoo looked likely to dump the adult groups
altogether we also set DOMestic up on Topica where it's also
still going.

There are over 10,000 folk now getting DOMestic by email, but it
is now being received by many more directly from our server as a
newsfeed. See:-

http://www.mschristine.com/newsfeed.shtml

But as newsfeeds are syndicated it's now impossible to know how
many folk are reading it and where.

Looking ahead to 2022 (another 13 years) we wonder whether we'll
have some new technology going and be zapping it straight into
your brains by then. :-)

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

Renew or get your DOMestic password.

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S: In The Bank Manager's Cupboard. Part Thirty-one
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:58:52 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-one

Everyone greeted Catrina warmly, she told Brian to
'stay', just inside the door where everyone could see
him. As soon as she was seated, 'Pippa' the maid,
served her with a drink.

As David was on door duty, Karin was using Christine's
slave maid, Pippa, as she called him, to serve drinks
to the assembled ladies.

Christine had been the first to arrive, she had sent
Pippa to David's cell to change 'his' clothes. Peter
was a convincing transvestite, trained by Christine to
become her live in maid, Pippa. 'He' was able to travel
in female clothing, but not of course in the extremely
revealing maid's outfits common in such gatherings.

Madame Kwai, a well known oriental lady, had hooded,
blindfolded and gagged her slave in the lift on the way
up. She finished zipping his hood just before they
entered Karin's apartment. 'Table' as she called her
slave, carried with him a flat oval sheet of perspex
with straps attached.

Before Madame Kwai took her seat she had her slave
kneel, she strapped his elbows to his knees and then
strapped the oval sheet to his back.

Having stripped him naked, and converted him to her
coffee table beside the sofa where she sat, she removed
his blindfold. He could see little above the knees of
the assembled company, but it was necessary to allow
him sight so that he could keep the table top level.

He had been trained to respond to the crop; if he let
one side of the table slip, the crop administered to the
right part of his body would bring about a readjustment.
It was an entertaining diversion for any Mistress.

Mistress Marique, on arrival removed the full length
coat from her female slave 'Adra'. Adra had also been
hooded and gagged in the lift, now she was naked except
for her suspender belt, stockings and high heels.

Marique liked Adra to be able to see and feel just how
many lustful eyes were able to see her nakedness.
Including those lascivious looks of slaves like 'Pippa'
who were not blindfolded.

Marique fitted ankle restrainers to Adra and linked them
together with a five inch chain. Marique then locked Adra's
hands together with wrist cuffs and fixed them to her collar.

Marique seated Adra between Madame Kwai and Karin, on
the sofa. Adra now felt totally defenceless, especially
as Karin and Madam Kwai began to amuse themselves by
pinching her nipples and thighs.

Karin and Sadine had gone into action as soon as Sadine
had brought her slave in. They stripped him down to
nothing but handcuffs and a ball gag, held in place by
a rubber ring which passed around his head and through
the centre of the ball.

He was led upstairs to Karin's bathroom where Sadine
watched Karin fit him into the Perspex toilet. His hands were
fixed above his head to a 'D' ring on the far side of the
toilet.

He was given a new name, which was of course 'Toilet'.

All the mistresses present were familiar with the
practice of calling a slave by his designated purpose,
whether permanent or temporary. Thereby degrading and
dehumanising the slave to the level of an article or
function. As far as possible when in conversation with
each other, especially when in the slaves earshot, the
ladies would refer to their slave by his label.

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posted by: "Christine" at u4ds.com / MsChristine.com
posted on: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:58:52 +0100

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty-one

Everyone greeted Catrina warmly, she told Brian to
'stay', just inside the door where everyone could see
him. As soon as she was seated, 'Pippa' the maid,
served her with a drink.

As David was on door duty, Karin was using Christine's
slave maid, Pippa, as she called him, to serve drinks
to the assembled ladies.

Christine had been the first to arrive, she had sent
Pippa to David's cell to change 'his' clothes. Peter
was a convincing transvestite, trained by Christine to
become her live in maid, Pippa. 'He' was able to travel
in female clothing, but not of course in the extremely
revealing maid's outfits common in such gatherings.

Madame Kwai, a well known oriental lady, had hooded,
blindfolded and gagged her slave in the lift on the way
up. She finished zipping his hood just before they
entered Karin's apartment. 'Table' as she called her
slave, carried with him a flat oval sheet of perspex
with straps attached.

Before Madame Kwai took her seat she had her slave
kneel, she strapped his elbows to his knees and then
strapped the oval sheet to his back.

Having stripped him naked, and converted him to her
coffee table beside the sofa where she sat, she removed
his blindfold. He could see little above the knees of
the assembled company, but it was necessary to allow
him sight so that he could keep the table top level.

He had been trained to respond to the crop; if he let
one side of the table slip, the crop administered to the
right part of his body would bring about a readjustment.
It was an entertaining diversion for any Mistress.

Mistress Marique, on arrival removed the full length
coat from her female slave 'Adra'. Adra had also been
hooded and gagged in the lift, now she was naked except
for her suspender belt, stockings and high heels.

Marique liked Adra to be able to see and feel just how
many lustful eyes were able to see her nakedness.
Including those lascivious looks of slaves like 'Pippa'
who were not blindfolded.

Marique fitted ankle restrainers to Adra and linked them
together with a five inch chain. Marique then locked Adra's
hands together with wrist cuffs and fixed them to her collar.

Marique seated Adra between Madame Kwai and Karin, on
the sofa. Adra now felt totally defenceless, especially
as Karin and Madam Kwai began to amuse themselves by
pinching her nipples and thighs.

Karin and Sadine had gone into action as soon as Sadine
had brought her slave in. They stripped him down to
nothing but handcuffs and a ball gag, held in place by
a rubber ring which passed around his head and through
the centre of the ball.

He was led upstairs to Karin's bathroom where Sadine
watched Karin fit him into the Perspex toilet. His hands were
fixed above his head to a 'D' ring on the far side of the toilet.

He was given a new name, which was of course 'Toilet'.

All the mistresses present were familiar with the
practice of calling a slave by his designated purpose,
whether permanent or temporary. Thereby degrading and
dehumanising the slave to the level of an article or
function. As far as possible when in conversation with
each other, especially when in the slaves earshot, the
ladies would refer to their slave by his label.

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From: "Roger Rodriguez"
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:22:39 -0500

Just wondering if there are any submissive females in the San
Antonio area.

Thanks

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:54:22 -0400
From: "M"

Hi Christine,

I have a question for the group. I am taking my slave to a
weekend long outdoor SM event with 200 other pervys on 300 acres
with unlimited toys, dungeons, cages, etc. We have been there
before and anything goes. I am looking for some fresh new ideas
that will make my slave squirm, blush, and be downright
mortified with humiliation.

When we are not in scene he begs me to stretch his limits and I
want to do just that. We are not into pain, just D/S and
humiliation play. He has a very small penis and no body hair.
When his penis is flaccid it may not even be one inch, so in and
of itself, being naked and on display for 3 days is humiliating
for him.

So anyway, if anyone has any ideas to add to his shame and my
enjoyment, I welcome your thoughts.

M

(Please don't post my e-mail address.)

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From: "David" at MsChristine.com / u4ds.com
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:08:50 +0100

Disciplinary Wives and the Domestic Discipline they administer.
by David (see "Author's Note" at the foot of this post)

I'm David, I'm a male submissive, and Christine is my lifetime
partner. Christine made me happy by becoming my disciplinary
wife some 30 years ago in 1979. Our 30th anniversary was in June
2009. I mention this to demonstrate that FemDom can lead to
longevity in relationships and it's not just about kinky sex
games in the bedroom.

Rather than talk only about us I want to explore in this brief
article some of the many facets of "Domestic Discipline" and
"Disciplinary Wives". Domestic Discipline may be practiced by
other couples, where the male is defined as the dominant
partner, and I've no doubt that works for some, but here I'm
primarily discussing FemDom relationships.

For many submissive males and their dominant partners or wives,
domestic discipline is fundamental to their loving FemDom
relationship. For some disciplinary wives it takes the form of a
household regime with precise rules and regulations defined by
the wife or dominant partner. The rules allow the male
submissive to surrender to the authority of a female who he may
passionately desire to accept as his natural superior.

Even when the couple do not subscribe to a female supremacy
philosophy or political viewpoint, they can often find release
and joy in living a FemDom lifestyle which expresses the
superiority of just one woman. She may be his Goddess in their
relationship and this may provide the raison d'etre

Whatever the basis or framework is for them. A hierarchical
structure can exist which allows for her, as the disciplinary
wife, to control their daily lives.

Many couples who would oppose the use of corporal punishment in
the wider society, will nevertheless find such disciplinary
methods are essential to enforce the wife's authority in their
private marital relationship. The domestic discipline can be
mild or harsh.

Disciplinary rituals like daily spankings or mild floggings are
indulged in by some, not as a punishment for an infraction of
the rules, but simply as a reminder to the male submissive of
the authority of his loving wife.

For such FemDom couples spanking can be an act of intimacy that
is more intense and satisfying than a kiss and a cuddle. It may
be a way to mark the end of the working day or week with
something to set the mood back into "home" mode.

The dominant wife might send the husband to take a shower when
he comes home from work on a Friday night, with an instruction
along the lines of "get yourself cleaned up dear, I want to give
you your weekly spanking before we go out for dinner."

Other couples will use more harsh punitive measures like the,
slipper, the tawse, the cane or even a riding crop or whip as a
direct punishment for particular offences or breaches of a set
of rules.

There are many submissive male husbands who physically crave
such treatment, often known as pain sluts or masochists, for
whom ritual discipline sessions may be seen as a rewarding
experience, physically releasing endorphins which cause them to
feel those body chemicals as an emotional 'high' during the
experience.

For other male subs, like myself, the pain is not directly a
pleasurable physical sensation, far from it, but the surrender
to strict feminine discipline is more of an emotional need. The
female order, guidance and punishment for rules broken is so
satisfying that the pain is not merely a price worth paying but
is essential to making the female authority more real and
apparent.

Whatever the style of "Domestic Discipline" a particular couple
indulges in, however mild or harsh the disciplinary methods, for
them the lifestyle can be real FemDom. Such couples may have
made an overt agreement to have a FemDom relationship. But for
others it's just natural for the woman to be the authority
figure in the household, and her disciplinary nature rules their
day to day life without acknowledging it as being something
called FemDom.

For some couples there are clearly defined boundaries where
certain types of behaviour have consequences. Male masturbation
is often strictly frowned upon and controlled by disciplinary
wives. For others the behaviours controlled may be more simple
things like not leaving the toilet seat up or controlling his
smoking and drinking.

When the lady of the house is a disciplinary wife, the rules of
the house could be enforced by her permanently and 24/7 but not
necessarily overtly. For many submissive male husbands, a stern
look from the dominant wife is all that is needed to keep him in
line especially if he knows that she has the power to take him
over her knee whenever she wants, and that she will use that
power.

Other disciplinary wives prefer to control their husbands by
restricting his spending money, controlling other privileges, or
even by restricting rewards like permission to make love or
granting him a special treat like female supervised masturbation
only when he has been a "good boy".

Even if micro-management is not the order of the day, what often
differentiates this type of relationship from a hen-pecked
husband and nagging wife is the overt agreement to accept the
"carrot" and the "stick" as part of the system of control.
Nagging is never necessary if obedience is guaranteed.

Whether you prefer the "carrot" or the "stick" as an approach to
guarantee the obedience of the male, sometimes exercising the
power to impose a physical punishment is more effective and
useful from time to time to reinforce the knowledge that he
needs evidence of. The knowledge that his Disciplinary Wife is
in overall control.

Domestic discipline can allow both partners in a relationship to
express their fundamental natures in a more overt manner than is
conventional and for male submissives and dominant females this
is a recipe for true happiness for the couple.

Because both partners know where they stand, (or kneel) it
enables them to escape the disagreements or tensions that less
clearly defined "conventional" relationships may suffer from.
Thus the loving and nurturing relationship flowers and blooms in
a way that many modern households don't experience.

There is no need for a power struggle between them. Typical
gender roles are not imposed upon them by their acceptance of
cultural norms. The submissive husband is free to accept the
dominant wife's role as a mentor and protector as well as the
disciplinarian if he wishes. Indeed she may be the breadwinner
in the household as well.

Alternatively, he may fulfil the role of both mentor and
protector for her, yet accept her authority and power to have
the last word - whichever gender is in the bread-winning role.

The point is that their relationship is not defined by cultural
norms whether conventional or learned from internet web sites.
Instead their relationship is defined by her rules, or at the
very least her disciplinarian role, which they have mutually
accepted and/or agreed upon.

There are couples where the husband wishes to surrender to
absolute control over his life, not just socially and sexually,
but financially. Indeed I suggested this as the ideal to
Christine 30 years ago when we first met because I thought it
was what I wanted and needed. We tried it, and it wasn't quite
right for us.

We've found that it's important not to accept other people's
definitions, or even your own first ideas of what FemDom means,
as though it's set in stone. Instead try and define quite
precisely which aspects will work for both of you in your own
relationship. This may mean that by trial and error you will
find what works best for you, and this should allow the
relationship to grow and change, as many healthy relationships
do over the years.

In a loving relationship where the dominant wife controls and
corrects for both his and their mutual benefit an intense level
of trust can enhance the marriage in ways that other
conventional relationships may not always benefit from. Male
submission to loving female control is empowering to both and
brings the couple closer in ways which some conventional couples
would find hard to understand.

If poetic love is in essence a form of submission, and if mature
love is respect for each others needs wants and desires, then
with domestic discipline there is a mechanism by which a
disciplinary wife can show respect and love through his need to
surrender to her.

Some folk are troubled by the details of how they will be able
to enjoy this lifestyle in the presence of others, and how they
should act in public. The answer for me is simple, act
naturally.

I'm not going to "misbehave" in public, but if I did and
Christine said "you'll regret that when I get you home", the
public would likely see it as a joke, and only I would enjoy the
knowledge that I will probably "regret" it, when I get home.

How does a loving father behave in front of the kids? He defers
to the loving mother, and if she requires he show the kids a
firm fatherly manner, he will find it easier to do so with her
full support.

What happens at family dinners? You eat!

Afterwards the submissive male will appear to be quite dominant
in his insistence on doing the washing up, and will brook no
nonsense about stacking it all in the dishwasher instead. Unless
and until, of course, the disciplinary wife insists upon it.
Then he will quite graciously accept. Either way whether he
washes the dishes or stacks them in the dishwasher it's a win
win situation.

What do you do when going out with friends? In my experience you
do just the same as everyone else does. The public will only see
what they want to see. The submissive male and his disciplinary
wife look like any other couple until he is over her knee, and
that's not likely to happen when you are out with friends.

There are folk who suggest that some couples are totally open
about their lifestyle, while others maintain a secretive way of
life which they only practice behind closed doors. In my
experience, for us, neither is precisely true and and I don't
think either needs to be true.

I don't expect other people to broadcast all the details of
their relationships to all and sundry, or indeed to me. Nor do
Christine and I feel the need to broadcast our intimate details
in social interaction.

We are perhaps unusual in that we are "out" publicly on the web,
but strangely that has little or no effect on our relationships
with family and friends, either because those that do know would
rather not know, or they don't care, or quite simply they don't
know because they don't visit "kinky" web sites.

For most couples this will not be an issue because most FemDom
couples don't have web sites where they publish the details of
their lives anyway. Most FemDom couples would probably use
common sense and not use their real names when posting messages
on web sites. But even if they did not use common sense, their
friends would not necessarily see their posts.

It is not always clear to others who makes the final decision in
our relationship. But like many married couples, it would not be
at all unusual for the husband to leave the final decision on
anything the public or friends interacted with or observed to
the wife. Whether it's normal or conventional to defer to my
partner I don't really know or care, it's what I do.

There is no one true way to do FemDom, and there is no simple
definition of "Domestic Discipline" it is what the couple wants
it to be. If you have the good fortune to be the husband of a
"Disciplinary Wife" then you will likely know how intensely
satisfying it is to be disciplined by her.

If your wife has yet to grow into her role as your Goddess or
disciplinarian then don't rush her, and don't define what a
FemDom relationship is like. Let it happen by being open and
honest about your desires when she wants to talk about them and
encourage her to know and understand what her needs and desires
are.

It's unlikely that you met in a slave market, and if you did not
it's equally unlikely that she will find your slavery is a role
which immediately appeals to her. But a loving husband who is
prepared to accept her discipline and control in the way she
wishes to express it is something she may find more to her
taste.

Communication will be essential between you to establish a way
to do it that is satisfying to both of you. It has to be satisfying
to you both, or it will not be likely to be satisfying to either.

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Author's note:

The article above is my own original article but I think most
fairly described as "re-written by me" after seeing one entitled
"Domestic Discipline" which is currently posted on multiple web
pages. (on perhaps a dozen different web sites)

Although I was inspired to write on the subject myself, we were
unable to post that "Domestic Discipline" article for me to
discuss and reply to here without being certain that we had the
author's permission.

Whenever we are in doubt about the copyright permissions for
articles submitted for inclusion on DOMestic we use Google to
check for identical material posted elsewhere. We understand
that the "Domestic Discipline" article may have originated at
"yesmistress" (dot) "org" as this is the first site in our
Google search results linked here.

In my own article I have only used a few phrases from the
original in order to expand upon, discuss and question some of
the ideas.

I trust I have managed to open the subject for discussion here
on DOMestic while giving credit where due to the original work
via an indirect Google link.

If the author of the "Domestic Discipline" article referred to
above wishes to post it here with a statement of his right to
publish, we will of course be pleased to link to the source
directly.

sincerely,
David at Ms-Christine.com

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Re: C: keeping sub hubby nude - chastity a start?
Date: 2 Jul 2009 09:49:37 -0000
From: lala45

Ashley wrote:

>any suggestions on making my sub hubby stay nude at home?

I suggest you depilate him and begin hand training him i.e. male
milking and masturbation as rewards for submitting to your
desires, also use or instil fetishes in him eventually if
desired.

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Re: C: Real life Fem Dom
From: "Darlyn"
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:01:20 -0700

"MaitresseX" wrote:

>I have not used the CB 2000 yet; it seems bulky and the acrylic
>is hard

The CB2000 did not work for my slave and myself. Due to his
large size, it kept breaking and cracking, so we had to return
it 4 different times.

I would not suggest this be used by a man who has a nice or
large size package.

My slave now wears a tube. It is wonderful, I am just so sorry
that they do not make them any more. The only problem he has had
is when he goes to court, he has to take it off, so that the
metal detector does not go off.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely

Ms. Irish owner of slave jimmie

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C: willing lickslave - what next?
Date: 4 Jul 2009 21:07:54 -0000
From: judy

hi to this forum

i am seeking advice on my situation, i have myself a very
willing lickslave who has serviced me well, i also keep myself
two lovers who i see weekly and upon them leaving, i require the
use of my lickslave.

what i would like to know, where do i go from here? i enjoy what
i have now, do i pursue more as in rules for my lickslave to
follow or just keep things the way they are?

As of now, i also control when he is permitted to cum which is
no more than once a month as that seems to keep him with a
strong desire to service me when i need regardless of my other
lovers.

Any suggestions?

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Re: P: command me to perform rimming - Jacksonville
From: Madamplz
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:45:57 EDT

johnny wrote with elegance:

>"I am a handsome male, 45, 6'1", 185, athlete, and I desire a
>woman who will command me to perform sex acts on her, I
>especially want to please a woman by rimming her ass hole with
>my tongue. Please let me know if you are into this."

Ladies, with a little work he could be not entirely useless.

When you're finished training him he'd be able to somersault
through a hoop, hump your leg on the fly, and finish with a
perfect landing, face first in the cleft of your derriere where
he'd be stuck - tongue thankfully still able to service Mistress
and at great risk to himself - being unable to breathe for
several hours.

It's the life we've envisioned.

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C: my personal writings - MaitresseX
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:12:13 -0000
From: "MaitresseX"

(continued from Real life Fem Dom)

A Never Ending Journey

This journey has brought me places that I did not think I would
ever go. When we met I was searching for something that was very
simple and straight forward. A loving/nurturing relationship,
being worshipped, adored with no taboos or limits. I was not
wrong I just did not have the understanding of how far one could
go in this realm.

Before this I said I would not do many things particularly in
the more extreme realm that we have ventured into. My prior
experiences which were limited do not give me a frame of
reference. This process continually unfolds as we go along this
path. Now we are beginning to explore the deeper recesses of our
dark side. I do not subscribe good/evil to this path it is
simply the full range of being human.

I find the archetypal Goddess Kali exemplifies the extremes from
being a giver and destroyer to loving and cruel. Shiva lays
prone beneath her feet. So now we are exploring the more
extreme; the degradation/humiliation and objectification to the
point where you are no longer considered human. The lowest form
of servitude; selfless and without self.

This is pure worship since there is no expectations or pleasure
derived by you and are rendered totally helpless. Pure obedience
and surrender; you do not have a voice, choice or will. You are
simply an object to be used.

Being a Matriarch

I decided to begin a 24/7 relationship as a Matriarch. It is
inevitable that if you control your slave to some degree you
control his circle which can comprise family and colleagues. I
took these people into consideration in how I dictated myself as
his owner. I found that it was necessary to be responsible and
make judicious decisions for the good of all because of the
interdependent nature of the situation. I made decisions
regarding his work, family and housing,

In retrospect, I believe I made good decisions regarding my
slave and brought order into his life. I was concerned about his
well-being in addition to those who surrounded him. With regards
to his well-being I was concerned about his emotional and
physical health and was careful not to harm him though
occasionally I punished him and hurt him temporarily.

I started the relationship out slowly but it became intense in
short order. He was hungry for slavery and I decided to do an
immersion into slavery after I felt there was chemistry and
compatibility on other levels. There were many facets to this
relationship: physical, spiritual, sexual, intimacy. This was
all-encompassing body, mind, and spirit. I was faced with many
decisions such as how much do I control my slave; do I
micromanage him?

To some degree this sort of relationship was experiential since
I had never been responsible for more than just the slave.
During this process we faced extreme highs and lows because of
expectations vs. reality. We faced outside variables such as
career challenges, money issues and last not least family
problems.

This in actuality was a lot of work on my part though when he
did not have obligations to meet he was at my beck and call. I
did not require much in the way of menial tasks since he had a
demanding career which sometimes involved many hours.
Additionally, much time was spent discussing and processing all
that transpired. I didn't have a prescribed routine though he
did serve me in whatever fashion I deemed necessary. I had never
felt such a bond with anyone before it was symbiotic.

The Mistress is a Shaman

The Mistress is a Shaman, Wise Woman, mentor and healer. She
takes you on a journey deep within your psyche and explores your
most primal needs. The slave is totally receptive to whatever
path his Mistress chooses to embark upon. She has total control
of his body, mind, and spirit; he surrenders himself to her and
is rendered helpless. There is a strong physical/spiritual and
sexual need which drives the slave closer to his Mistress that
creates a bond and symbiotic relationship. His pleasure is
derived from hers; his needs are secondary if non-existent. The
Mistress has total power to do as she pleases with her slave.
She can punish/reward, subjugate, objectify, and treat her slave
like common property to be used at her discretion.

The Pendulum Swings

This journey has gone deep within ourselves and to the extreme.
We have touched upon all the aspects but have not fully
experienced the more extreme. I am not afraid to go there since
I know the pendulum will swing back. To reiterate: this has
encompassed body, mind, spirit. This is spiritual, sexual,
primal, loving and nurturing. This is like Kali who is the
nurturer and destroyer, dark/light and yin/yang. The duality is
balance. This is what we should seek; balance and equilibrium.
One can not find happiness without balance.

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C: zapped and padlocked balls - software resuscitated
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:22:37 +0000 (GMT)
From: tim spiers

Good Evening,

We purchased your training program more years ago than I wish to
remember - about ten or twelve years ago.

We had massive fun with it and my wife really took it to heart
and since that time we have led a domestic femdom relationship.
I must stress that we are not "heavy breathing" fantasy type
people and we live normal everyday lives except that when the
time, mood and opportunity arise we switch into femdom mode. I
posted some stuff to you years ago (see below) to tell you how
we were getting on.

So - onto our present situation. This is a post from years ago,
I think to you but if not, somewhat similar to my post to
you......

Many years ago I saw a blue movie where a man crosses the local
mafia boss. He gets taken to a warehouse, stripped naked and is
chained to a wall with a padlock around his testicles.

His girlfriend then has to look after the mafia boss and all his
friends so the film was full of her having to please them all.
Each night she would go to the warehouse to feed her boyfriend.
The film closes with him released from the chain but still with
the padlock around his testicles as he pulls up his trousers.

This was and still is a huge turn on for me.

For years I contemplated telling my wife about my fantasy of
being locked up like that but always chickened out. I then wrote
a letter to her telling her about it and bought a padlock hoping
that one day I'd have the nerve to tell her.

I think I must have had the letter for at least two years. Then
one Saturday evening we got blind stinking drunk and I gave it
to her. The evening is a total blur but I can remember her
reading the letter and shouting out repeatedly "Where is it,
Where is it - Put it on - Put it on". So I did so. As I said the
evening was a complete blur.

The next morning I woke up and realized what had happened. I
reached down and - sure enough - there it was. I was terrified.
I lay in bed wondering what she would say. I must have gone off
to sleep again and when I woke up she had gone. I could hear her
moving around downstairs. My worry was that either she was very
pissed off or that she didn't remember.

I was very very nervous when she came into the bedroom with a
cup of tea and a Nurothen. She was smiling so at least she
wasn't annoyed but may be she didn't remember? I asked her, very
carefully, if she remembered the previous evening.

All she said, very enigmatically was "Oh Yes".

I got up and waited for her to talk about it BUT she never said
a word all day. When we went to bed in the evening she told me
to lay on the bed while she inspected the situation. She tugged
the lock about, tried to pull it off and squeeze my balls
through the shackle.

After a bit she just said "You really can't get it off can you"

I said "Not at all"

And she said something like "Poor fool you"

The next morning I had to go to work and she had still said
nothing. My original thinking was that if I was lucky the lock
would go on for an evenings fun. It never occurred to me that it
would stay on for days. I began to get worried that she'd never
take it off.

I woke her up to say I was off to work and still she said
nothing. Finally I reminded her that I was locked up and she
said "So what"

SO - I went to work for the first time with a padlock around my
testicles. It was, quite simply, awe inspiring! I was terrified
all day and was certain people would know. I was also incredibly
incredibly turned on.

We met for lunch and started a long - several days long -
discussion about female domination although I hate that
expression and much prefer 'a power exchange'

From that day on - several years ago - our lives have changed.

Since then our femdom life has gone up and down according to
mood and opportunity.

Later on we got a "shock collar" a modified dog collar one which
I posted about here....

http://u4ds.com/2007/01/shock_collar.shtml#c002539

This scared me rigid. I could be locked up with the padlock but
that was it - my obedience determined how long it was on - but
that was it! The shock collar, on the other hand, was a serious
"attention getter"

I have attached an image of the padlock "locked on" if you want
to use it. The longest I've been locked up to date is nineteen
days.

image at:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/zapped_and_padlocked_balls_sof.shtml

So, we have not used the program for about two years and tried
to resuscitate a few days ago to (maybe) get some new ideas.
But, like your recent post, it wouldn't work. What went wrong?
Is it worth updating? Some of your files date back to 1997!

Please feel free to publish this on DOMestic if you wish but
please let me know if it is worth upgrading your program

Regards

Timmie

PS Remember those awesome stories from Bill?

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Re: C: zapped and padlocked balls - software resuscitated
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:21:01 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello Timmie,

I'll send the latest version now which David assures me will
solve your problems. Please let me know how you get on. Also
please let me know the operating system, browser version, and
anti virus you are running.

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

The Fem Dom Training Software.
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Re: C: zapped and padlocked balls - software resuscitated
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:27:29 +0000 (GMT)
From: tim spiers

Hi

That was an incredibly speedy response. Many thanks.

And yes, it now works! I shall look into it and see what
differences there are. Why wouldn't the old version work?

For your information - we are now in femdom mode and I am now
locked up - my wife is a medic and on nights for the next three
nights and - yes - I have cut the grass!

Of all the sites on the web you seem to be the most genuine - it
would be lovely to see more "believable" stories about TRUE
domestic femdom experiences that I am so Bl--dy lucky to have.

regards

Timmie

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Re: C: zapped and padlocked balls - software resuscitated
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:29:32 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Hello Timmie,

>Why wouldn't the old version work?

You didn't answer my questions on your operating system, browser
version, and anti virus - so my guess is that you are running XP
and IE8.

We test the program on all major browsers and operating systems,
but it seems that there is one configuration of AV, security
settings, and browser which cause the browser to lock local
files from running. This, David tells me, is because IE8 on XP is
less than totally secure, so the fix from Microsoft is to lock
certain local files rather than fix the operating system.

Although we were unable to replicate the error on our own
version of Vista, David was able to install a particular AV
program on an XP system which reports suggested exacerbated the
issue, and then he managed to track down the bug in the XP OS
and IE8 browser combination and create a work-around which fixes
it. He was cursing and sighing for a few days in his office!

While I'm answering your questions, you also asked:-

>Remember those awesome stories from Bill?

Yes, indeed. And we are much saddened that Bill's artistic and
creative flow has ceased. (Where are you Bill? Still reading
DOMestic?)

Bill's stories are still available for members to read again at:-

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/sb.htm

>I have cut the grass!

Is that both indoor and outdoor?

>Of all the sites on the web you seem to be the most genuine

Thank you Timmie. I don't see a lot of other sites myself, but
those that I do see are often not to my taste.

>it would be lovely to see more "believable" stories about TRUE
>domestic femdom experiences that I am so Bl--dy lucky to have.

You've started the ball rolling (excuse any puns that may be
there) let's hope you keep it up (oops there I go again!) and
send in more of your experiences. If not, then let's hope that
others follow suit and, like you, tell us how they are doing Fem-
Dom at home.

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

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Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom

Paul wrote:

>installed the new software from the zip file you sent, and
>voila! Success!

Hi,

IMHO you folks are the publishers of the BEST moderated
newsletter on the web for how many years now? I too bought the
program from you and have similar issues. Please advise.

Thank you
Cheers..
Tom

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Re: X: FemDom Training Program XP IE8
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:53:43 +0100
From: David

Hello Tom,

you wrote:

>for how many years now?

It will be 13 years this October, and I think you've been
reading for most of that time?

Christine sent you the upgrade on the 29th June from the support
address, I sent you a follow up email on the 30th, and Christine
sent another email on the 2nd July. We've not received a reply
to any of those emails.

We're posting this here simply because it's possible that you
have spam filtering which is blocking all but the DOMestic
digest and may not have checked your spam filters recently.

If you received the upgrade, then please let us know that it
worked for you, and if not, what OS, AV, and browser you are
using.

sincerely,
David at u4ds.com

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S: In The Bank Manager's Cupboard. Part Thirty
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:14:37 +0100
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty

Catrina Strikland pulled up outside Karin's apartment
block. She locked the car and opening the boot, she
took out her briefcase with her toys.

"Follow me," she ordered abruptly as she strode ahead
of Brian in her long leather coat, her high heels clicking
authoritatively on the pavement. Brian followed as
always, ten paces behind, having climbed out of the
boot and closed it behind him. When he was dressed as
he was, Catrina liked to make him walk alone and
exposed.

It was just as well that Karin had warned the doorman
that she was having a fancy dress party. Brian was
wearing the full slave garb; shorts, ankle cuffs, tee
shirt, collar, wrist cuffs, and hood. 'D' rings were
attached for later bondage treatment, his outfit was
black leather.

The doorman downstairs politely showed Catrina to the
lift, "Good evening Madam." He raised his eyebrows as
Brian scuttled in after her, just before the doors
closed. In the lift, Catrina took out a rubber plug
gag, blindfold and lead, and snapped them all into
place on Brian's hood and collar. She led Brian to
Karin's door.

Catrina was the last to arrive and Karin was pleased
that finally the party could get into full swing. She
buzzed David to let her in. By now David had become
accustomed to his duties, less embarrassed as nobody
seemed to notice or acknowledge his presence.

As the door closed behind them Catrina took off her coat
and dumped it on David's arm. Handcuffed to the door,
David had difficulty reaching a peg to hang it on. As he
turned back he was caught by Catrina, gawping at her
outfit, or rather the barely covered body enclosed
within it.

Catrina was wearing black shiny patent boots, with
heels that must have been over four inches long. They
strapped tightly at the top of her legs, around her
thighs, barely three inches from her mound. The black
shiny material over her vulva was so soft and supple
that her features were visible through the glossy
covering.

Her outfit was a gleaming black that formed like a
second skin over those parts of her body that it
covered. It would resemble a one piece swimsuit,
except for what it left uncovered. It plunged from a
high collar style neckline, down between her totally
exposed breasts, covering the rest of her shapely
torso as though it had been painted upon her.
It passed over her mound of venus and reappeared
as a thin strap of material between her cheeks,
separating the buttocks into two shapely orbs.

Her shoulder length gloves were of the same material
and with straps to hold them in place they completed
the outfit.

Catrina slapped his face twice, "Lust is a punishable
offence, I will ask Karin for the pleasure!" She turned
on her heel, to make her entrance.

David was left with both cheeks glowing and hoping that
Karin would deny her 'the pleasure'. Although he was by
now realising the chances were slim indeed.

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This story is one of over 400 stories you can read on the
DOMestic web site. Support DOMestic. Renew / Get your
password at:- http://u4ds.com/password

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posted by: "Christine" at u4ds.com / MsChristine.com
posted on: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:14:37 +0100

Previous issues.

In The Bank Manager's Cupboard - by Ms. Christine
Copyright 1986-2009 Christine and David Stevenson

Part Thirty

Catrina Strikland pulled up outside Karin's apartment
block. She locked the car and opening the boot, she
took out her briefcase with her toys.

"Follow me," she ordered abruptly as she strode ahead
of Brian in her long leather coat, her high heels clicking
authoritatively on the pavement. Brian followed as
always, ten paces behind, having climbed out of the
boot and closed it behind him. When he was dressed as
he was, Catrina liked to make him walk alone and
exposed.

It was just as well that Karin had warned the doorman
that she was having a fancy dress party. Brian was
wearing the full slave garb; shorts, ankle cuffs, tee
shirt, collar, wrist cuffs, and hood. 'D' rings were
attached for later bondage treatment, his outfit was
black leather.

The doorman downstairs politely showed Catrina to the
lift, "Good evening Madam." He raised his eyebrows as
Brian scuttled in after her, just before the doors
closed. In the lift, Catrina took out a rubber plug
gag, blindfold and lead, and snapped them all into
place on Brian's hood and collar. She led Brian to
Karin's door.

Catrina was the last to arrive and Karin was pleased
that finally the party could get into full swing. She
buzzed David to let her in. By now David had become
accustomed to his duties, less embarrassed as nobody
seemed to notice or acknowledge his presence.

As the door closed behind them Catrina took off her coat
and dumped it on David's arm. Handcuffed to the door,
David had difficulty reaching a peg to hang it on. As he
turned back he was caught by Catrina, gawping at her
outfit, or rather the barely covered body enclosed
within it.

Catrina was wearing black shiny patent boots, with
heels that must have been over four inches long. They
strapped tightly at the top of her legs, around her
thighs, barely three inches from her mound. The black
shiny material over her vulva was so soft and supple
that her features were visible through the glossy
covering.

Her outfit was a gleaming black that formed like a
second skin over those parts of her body that it
covered. It would resemble a one piece swimsuit,
except for what it left uncovered. It plunged from a
high collar style neckline, down between her totally
exposed breasts, covering the rest of her shapely
torso as though it had been painted upon her.
It passed over her mound of venus and reappeared
as a thin strap of material between her cheeks,
separating the buttocks into two shapely orbs.

Her shoulder length gloves were of the same material
and with straps to hold them in place they completed
the outfit.

Catrina slapped his face twice, "Lust is a punishable
offence, I will ask Karin for the pleasure!" She turned
on her heel, to make her entrance.

David was left with both cheeks glowing and hoping that
Karin would deny her 'the pleasure'. Although he was by
now realising the chances were slim indeed.

Part Thirty-one is at:-

http://u4ds.com/2009/07/bank_managers_cupboard_31.shtml

This story is one of over 400 stories you can read on the
DOMestic web site. Support DOMestic, get your password.

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Date: 4 Jul 2009 21:07:54 -0000
From: judy

hi to this forum

i am seeking advice on my situation, i have myself a very
willing lickslave who has serviced me well, i also keep myself
two lovers who i see weekly and upon them leaving, i require the
use of my lickslave.

what i would like to know, where do i go from here? i enjoy what
i have now, do i pursue more as in rules for my lickslave to
follow or just keep things the way they are?

As of now, i also control when he is permitted to cum which is
no more than once a month as that seems to keep him with a
strong desire to service me when i need regardless of my other
lovers.

Any suggestions?

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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:12:13 -0000
From: "MaitresseX"

(continued from Real life Fem Dom)

A Never Ending Journey

This journey has brought me places that I did not think I would
ever go. When we met I was searching for something that was very
simple and straight forward. A loving/nurturing relationship,
being worshipped, adored with no taboos or limits. I was not
wrong I just did not have the understanding of how far one could
go in this realm.

Before this I said I would not do many things particularly in
the more extreme realm that we have ventured into. My prior
experiences which were limited do not give me a frame of
reference. This process continually unfolds as we go along this
path. Now we are beginning to explore the deeper recesses of our
dark side. I do not subscribe good/evil to this path it is
simply the full range of being human.

I find the archetypal Goddess Kali exemplifies the extremes from
being a giver and destroyer to loving and cruel. Shiva lays
prone beneath her feet. So now we are exploring the more
extreme; the degradation/humiliation and objectification to the
point where you are no longer considered human. The lowest form
of servitude; selfless and without self.

This is pure worship since there is no expectations or pleasure
derived by you and are rendered totally helpless. Pure obedience
and surrender; you do not have a voice, choice or will. You are
simply an object to be used.

Being a Matriarch

I decided to begin a 24/7 relationship as a Matriarch. It is
inevitable that if you control your slave to some degree you
control his circle which can comprise family and colleagues. I
took these people into consideration in how I dictated myself as
his owner. I found that it was necessary to be responsible and
make judicious decisions for the good of all because of the
interdependent nature of the situation. I made decisions
regarding his work, family and housing,

In retrospect, I believe I made good decisions regarding my
slave and brought order into his life. I was concerned about his
well-being in addition to those who surrounded him. With regards
to his well-being I was concerned about his emotional and
physical health and was careful not to harm him though
occasionally I punished him and hurt him temporarily.

I started the relationship out slowly but it became intense in
short order. He was hungry for slavery and I decided to do an
immersion into slavery after I felt there was chemistry and
compatibility on other levels. There were many facets to this
relationship: physical, spiritual, sexual, intimacy. This was
all-encompassing body, mind, and spirit. I was faced with many
decisions such as how much do I control my slave; do I
micromanage him?

To some degree this sort of relationship was experiential since
I had never been responsible for more than just the slave.
During this process we faced extreme highs and lows because of
expectations vs. reality. We faced outside variables such as
career challenges, money issues and last not least family
problems.

This in actuality was a lot of work on my part though when he
did not have obligations to meet he was at my beck and call. I
did not require much in the way of menial tasks since he had a
demanding career which sometimes involved many hours.
Additionally, much time was spent discussing and processing all
that transpired. I didn't have a prescribed routine though he
did serve me in whatever fashion I deemed necessary. I had never
felt such a bond with anyone before it was symbiotic.

The Mistress is a Shaman

The Mistress is a Shaman, Wise Woman, mentor and healer. She
takes you on a journey deep within your psyche and explores your
most primal needs. The slave is totally receptive to whatever
path his Mistress chooses to embark upon. She has total control
of his body, mind, and spirit; he surrenders himself to her and
is rendered helpless. There is a strong physical/spiritual and
sexual need which drives the slave closer to his Mistress that
creates a bond and symbiotic relationship. His pleasure is
derived from hers; his needs are secondary if non-existent. The
Mistress has total power to do as she pleases with her slave.
She can punish/reward, subjugate, objectify, and treat her slave
like common property to be used at her discretion.

The Pendulum Swings

This journey has gone deep within ourselves and to the extreme.
We have touched upon all the aspects but have not fully
experienced the more extreme. I am not afraid to go there since
I know the pendulum will swing back. To reiterate: this has
encompassed body, mind, spirit. This is spiritual, sexual,
primal, loving and nurturing. This is like Kali who is the
nurturer and destroyer, dark/light and yin/yang. The duality is
balance. This is what we should seek; balance and equilibrium.
One can not find happiness without balance.

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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:22:37 +0000 (GMT)
From: tim spiers

Good Evening,

We purchased your training program more years ago than I wish to remember - about ten or twelve years ago.

We had massive fun with it and my wife really took it to heart and since that time we have led a domestic femdom relationship. I must stress that we are not "heavy breathing" fantasy type people and we live normal everyday lives except that when the time, mood and opportunity arise we switch into femdom mode. I posted some stuff to you years ago (see below) to tell you how we were getting on.

So - onto our present situation. This is a post from years ago, I think to you but if not, somewhat similar to my post to you......

Many years ago I saw a blue movie where a man crosses the local mafia boss. He gets taken to a warehouse, stripped naked and is chained to a wall with a padlock around his testicles.

His girlfriend then has to look after the mafia boss and all his friends so the film was full of her having to please them all. Each night she would go to the warehouse to feed her boyfriend. The film closes with him released from the chain but still with the padlock around his testicles as he pulls up his trousers.

This was and still is a huge turn on for me.

For years I contemplated telling my wife about my fantasy of being locked up like that but always chickened out. I then wrote a letter to her telling her about it and bought a padlock hoping that one day I'd have the nerve to tell her.

I think I must have had the letter for at least two years. Then one Saturday evening we got blind stinking drunk and I gave it to her. The evening is a total blur but I can remember her reading the letter and shouting out repeatedly "Where is it, Where is it - Put it on - Put it on". So I did so. As I said the evening was a complete blur.

The next morning I woke up and realized what had happened. I reached down and - sure enough - there it was. I was terrified. I lay in bed wondering what she would say. I must have gone off to sleep again and when I woke up she had gone. I could hear her moving around downstairs. My worry was that either she was very pissed off or that she didn't remember.

I was very very nervous when she came into the bedroom with a cup of tea and a Nurothen. She was smiling so at least she wasn't annoyed but may be she didn't remember? I asked her, very carefully, if she remembered the previous evening.

All she said, very enigmatically was "Oh Yes".

I got up and waited for her to talk about it BUT she never said a word all day. When we went to bed in the evening she told me to lay on the bed while she inspected the situation. She tugged the lock about, tried to pull it off and squeeze my balls through the shackle.

After a bit she just said "You really can't get it off can you"

I said "Not at all"

And she said something like "Poor fool you"

The next morning I had to go to work and she had still said nothing. My original thinking was that if I was lucky the lock would go on for an evenings fun. It never occurred to me that it would stay on for days. I began to get worried that she'd never take it off.

I woke her up to say I was off to work and still she said nothing. Finally I reminded her that I was locked up and she said "So what"

SO - I went to work for the first time with a padlock around my testicles. It was, quite simply, awe inspiring! I was terrified all day and was certain people would know. I was also incredibly incredibly turned on.

We met for lunch and started a long - several days long - discussion about female domination although I hate that expression and much prefer 'a power exchange'

From that day on - several years ago - our lives have changed.

Since then our femdom life has gone up and down according to mood and opportunity.

Later on we got a "shock collar" a modified dog collar one which I posted about here....

http://u4ds.com/2007/01/shock_collar.shtml#c002539

This scared me rigid. I could be locked up with the padlock but that was it - my obedience determined how long it was on - but that was it! The shock collar, on the other hand, was a serious "attention getter"

I have attached an image of the padlock "locked on" if you want to use it. The longest I've been locked up to date is nineteen days

So, we have not used the program for about two years and tried to resuscitate a few days ago to (maybe) get some new ideas. But, like your recent post, it wouldn't work. What went wrong? Is it worth updating? Some of your files date back to 1997!

Please feel free to publish this on DOMestic if you wish but please let me know if it is worth upgrading your program

Regards

Timmie

PS Remember those awesome stories from Bill?

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