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Re: C: cheap electro-play and stuff
Date: 26 Apr 2008 05:08:17 -0000
From: Barry Babcock

Ashen Spirit wrote:

>how would I go about building my own power device? I'm cheap
>and don't wanna order one online. :)

Do it yourself is always risky at best, better to find
competently made equipment for consistent, safe results.

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Re: C: he is rethinking slavery
Date: 25 Apr 2008 13:39:16 -0000
From: tom

Well, how are things going?

Tom

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Re: C: he is rethinking slavery
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:21:40 -0000
From: "PriestessAvril"

Dear Madamplz,

Thank you for your thoughtful and detailed response. I agree
with what you say but right now I am working on the outer world
part of our relationship. I am taking a step by step approach to
the situation. I want for us to have everything straightened out
with family, business and finances. This has helped to restore
our relationship and making it more healthy.

Now instead of leaving him (remember we live together so I would
be leaving my home) I have put slavery on hold. I told my slave
it is a gift that I will NOT give unless he is willing to accept
it. Now he is very hungry for it and I throw him a bone.

I totally agree that he can not just sit on his hands forever in
a state of limbo. I am trying to time the situation and am
observing his reactions. When it is time I will get more strict
and ease him back into it. We had a Mistress/slave relationship
not a Mistress/sub relationship.

I have removed the comfort by telling him I won't put up with
this forever and I have my limits. I am not playing games with
him but giving him a bit of leash for the time being.

There are factors coming into play here: he is 52 yo, has a very
challenging job, has really lived slavery with me for an
extended period of time. We had family interference (they don't
know about slavery) and his business partner. He was also
married 27 years and divorced 2 years ago. Now slavery and a new
marriage. Now he has a pseudo mid-life crisis.

There is always a plan B.

Best regards,
Priestess Avril

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C: CB6000 experience and FD program
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:20:20 -0700
From: "Jim G"

If you are looking for a chastity device that will allow you to
set-and-forget. I've got an answer.

I know from personal experience that the CB6000 is impossible to
escape from! It allows the wearer to use the toilet, and can be
worn under normal clothing without detection. It can even be
worn in the shower. It is designed for long-term use. Some users
claim that they have worn it for weeks at a time.

Some words of caution. Keep it lubed with something that is not
water-soluble. Baby oil does a great job. Shave his thing before
putting it on! Hair-pulling is painful.... the CB6000 is
actually supposed to be comfortable.

Put it on slowly. It's like putting a 10 pound sausage in a 5
pound bag, but once it is on, no worries.... it won't hurt him.
Use some ice if you need to. Finally, the cock ring can usually
go a size smaller than it seems.... help him get it on snuggly
but be careful not to pinch it.

MOST OF ALL, if your hubby is horny, he gets involuntary
erections at night. If he does he will experience the worst pain
a man can possibly endure. I cannot wear it over night without
waking up in extreme pain. If this happens to him, let him out.
Here is a suggestion. Leave the cock ring on, and tie a bell
through the peg where the lock would normally go. He cannot
masturbate without the bell ringing, so you will wake up. "For
whom the bell tolls"?

cb6000 male chastity device

Please let me know how that works for you.

On another subject, my wife wants to please her submissive
husband, but she lacks confidence. She imagines whips and riding
crops, and has even bought a few.... and used them I might add.
I get the feeling that she is just doing it for me though. She
does not understand why a man would enjoy having his package
locked down with the only key in her possession.

If I can get her to use your program, I think she will enjoy it,
or at least understand the idea of domination. Do you think that
I am being too pushy by giving it to her? Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Jim

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Re: C: CB6000 experience and FD program
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 21:10:17 +0000

Hello Jim,

Thanks for the post. I'm sure your experiences with the CB6000
will be of much interest to DOMestic readers.

I'm interested in hearing your experience of the CB 6000, it was
last discussed here in December. It's clear experiences vary and
at least one other person posting here found it not quite so
"set and forget". Take a look at the post at:-

http://u4ds.com/2007/12/experimentingswitching_with_cb.shtml

You wrote:

>If I can get her to use your program, I think she will enjoy
>it, or at least understand the idea of domination. Do you
>think that I am being too pushy by giving it to her?

Only you can know your partner, but if it were me I would rather
such a thing be discussed first, and then subsequently presented
to me after I had agreed to take a look.

>Any suggestions?

Take her out to dinner, and if the mood is right, when you bring
the subject up, tell her that you think she will enjoy it, and
would get a better understanding of what makes you tick, and the
ideas behind domination.

sincerely,
Christine

The Fem Dom Training Software.
Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.

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Re: C: CB6000 experience and FD program
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:30:22 -0700
From: "Jim G"

Christine wrote:

>if it were me I would rather such a thing be discussed first,
>and then subsequently presented to me after I had agreed to
>take a look.

Regarding my wife, we've talked and I've told her that I love
her no matter what.

The books we have looked at were more on the physical side of
domination, and the leather and latex clothing. I'm not sure
that is for either one of us although it might have a place now
and then.

I'm offering your program as an alternative.... Thanks for
making it possible.

Regards,
Jim

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Re: C: CB6000 experience and FD program
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 00:38:39 +0000

Hello,

Jim G wrote:

>we've talked and I've told her that I love her no matter what.

Take her to dinner anyway, and ask for her permission to present
her with the software.

sincerely,
Christine

My FemDom manuals are at
http://u4ds.com/manuals

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C: FemDom Training Program
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:47:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brett Cobler

I looked at the site and I want to know more.

My wife might be turned off if in the software you used the
words FemDom, submissive, slave or things of that nature. Do you
use wording like that or something else mare palatable to a
Vanilla woman?

Also my wife is often my Keyholder and it definitely focuses me
on her needs and stops my masturbation. Does the software lean
toward keeping the husband locked in chastity?

I have been looking for something to help her be more creative
and make sex more exciting again.

Brett

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Re: C: FemDom Training Program
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:20:54 +0000

Hello,

Brett wrote:

>I looked at the site and I want to know more.

There is a link on the site for "more" details...

(link displays here on blog)

>My wife might be turned off if in the software you used the
>words FemDom, submissive, slave or things of that nature. Do
>you use wording like that

Yes. It's FemDom software.

It would be nearly impossible to create FemDom training software
without talking about FemDom.

Have you tried Forum magazine?

If you want something that doesn't talk about FemDom you might
go into your local library, or go to Amazon and look at
thousands of books on conventional marital relationships.

>or something else mare palatable to a Vanilla woman. Also my
>wife is often my Keyholder and it definitely focuses me on her
>needs and stops my masturbation.

Are you pulling my leg? (English for joking!)

Your wife has you in a chastity belt, holds the key, and might
be turned off if we mention FemDom?

You must be kidding?

>Does the software lean toward keeping the husband locked in
>chastity?

It doesn't lean towards any aspect. It covers all aspects. So
yes there are substantial sections covering chastity.

>I have been looking for something to help her be more creative
>and make sex more exciting again.

Sounds to me like you need to have a heart to heart chat with
your wife.

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

The Fem Dom Training Software.
Warning! Turns your wife/lover into a Dominatrix.

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Re: C: FemDom Training Program
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:18:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brett Cobler

>Your wife has you in a chastity belt, holds the key, and might
>be turned off if we mention FemDom?

She's kinda vanilla, but my chastity appeals to her because her
past boyfriend, and husband before that, left her as they were
having sex with other women.

BC

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Re: C: FemDom Training Program
From: "Christine" at u4ds.com
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:44:35 +0000

Hello,

Brett Cobler wrote:

>She's kinda vanilla

Well I was completely so called "vanilla", when I met David
almost thirty years ago. And as we've discussed here many times,
it only took some sensitive communication from David about his
needs fantasies and desires and it wasn't very long before I was
getting quite daring myself.

I wasn't turned on by everything that interested David, but
getting some help around the house, and having plenty of oral
attention without having to return the favour were two very
positive benefits.

>my chastity appeals to her because her past boyfriend, and
>husband before that

David is a very faithful kind of guy, but I'd also had a
straying husband in a previous relationship, so the idea of
chastity devices was always something that fascinated me.

There are quite a few men on this list who wear chastity belts
for similar reasons to yourself, even a few who have admitted to
straying in mind and deed themselves. Some of them have posted
previously about their lives in FemDom relationships, even if
they don't all call it that by name. So there is hope for you
yet.

Maybe you'll get lucky and a few will write in with tips on
broaching the subject of FemDom with your wife.

My own partner David was very open with me about having kinky
desires and wanting me to be his FemDom, and that's what I'd
generally advocate.

sincerely,
Christine at u4ds.com

My FemDom manuals.

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P: Connecticut male seeks old fashioned discipline
From: Lshbck50
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 23:14:27 EDT

Kind, attractive, sincere male is seeking a single woman in
North Central CT. who is interested in old fashioned discipline
and slavery.

I am hoping to develop a long-term relationship/friendship with
a kind, discreet woman who would enjoy administering an old
fashioned bareback whipping or caning. An intelligent woman who
would like to have her own slave to carry out her menial tasks.

I am educated, employed and respectful. I can be your friend for
vanilla activities and a slave for you to summon when needed.
Please be sincere and discreet. Farmington Valley area.

Lshbck50@aol.com

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U: Lost Yahoogroup - A place for non-pro dominatrices
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 10:24:16 -0000
From: PriestessAvril

I was part of this group and for some reason it was not on my
list today. Please help. There was a good discussion going on
that I want to follow.

Please reply direct to me:

PriestessAvril at yahoo dot com

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S: A New Beginning for Laurence - Act 1
From: "Red Rogue"
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:44:45 +0100

Dear Christine and David,

Please find attached a story that I have written. I offer it to
you in recognition of the excellent work that you are doing.

Red Rogue.

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A New Beginning for Laurence

Act 1

Laura was deliriously ecstatic as she hugged her long lost
brother at the airport, the tears running down her face as she
held him tightly. Laurence had left home almost twenty years
earlier, when Laura was still a young girl and for some reason,
she had pushed most memories of their childhood to a place deep
within her subconscious mind. Now Larry was back and she could
not wait to shower him with love and affection and to help him
in every way.

Laura McKenzie was a successful young business woman. She had
taken over her father's small enterprise at an early age and had
transformed it into a multi-million, world-wide success. Times
had been hard at the beginning but the young woman had the
talent and intelligence to turn failure into spectacular
success. Now, her big brother was back in town and life could
not be better.

Laurence Hobbs was his father's favourite child. He was given an
outstanding education and a large share in the family business.
Everything seemed to be rosy in the garden for Laurence but
then, suddenly and without explanation, he departed from both
the business and the country, leaving his friends completely
mystified. Now, he was back and the gossip that had followed his
sudden leaving was nothing compared to that of his return. Laura
was delighted to have her brother home though and she soon fixed
him up with a senior position within her company.

It was good to have Larry at the helm, she thought as Laura
jetted off to a working holiday. She had not taken a break for
many years as she worked hard to build up the business. There
were problems at some of the foreign branches and Larry had
persuaded her that she could spend a little time sorting them
out while she also took a long and well earned vacation.

"Go babe... take all the time you want. You know I'll look after
things here. You will be kept completely informed about
everything".

Three months later, Laura's homecoming could not have been more
romantic. A limousine and expensive flowers greeted her at the
airport, courtesy of her big brother, along with an apology
because he could not be there in person. She was treated to a
relaxing massage and a fine meal, before being driven home.

Two days after that, the flowers did not smell as sweet as Laura
delved deeply into the company accounts. The thriving business
that she had left in the hands of her trusted brother months
earlier was now close to ruin, despite the false figures that
appeared in the company accounts.

Within hours, Laura was meeting with her Head of Human
Resources, her best friend Orla. The source of the trouble was
soon identified and all that remained to be done now was to
decide upon the solution. Laura had done it before and she knew
that, with hard work she could turn the tide in her favour again
as far as the business was concerned. Dealing with the culprit
was a more difficult matter.

She had met many like her brother and she also knew that she
could suck them in and spit them out without a second thought.
This was her brother though and things were different.

Over and over again, she studied the file that Orla had
compiled. Much as it pained her, she had to admit that Larry was
a good-for-nothing, womanising, alcoholic gambler, with massive
debts. And he had left her company almost in ruin. Behind the
facade of the successful businessman, there was a manipulative
cheat and an accomplished conman. There was also research from
abroad that shed light on Larry's reasons for coming home so
unexpectedly.

Later that night, as Laura was falling into an uneasy slumber,
long forgotten thoughts came back to trouble her. She recalled
the harassment, the bullying and worse; thoughts that had been
painfully buried deep within her subconscious mind. She relived
those moments of terror when she listened in on the planning of
what would turn out to be a violent armed robbery at her
father's business premises. She had been too afraid to speak at
the time.

Laura awoke from her slumber but she could not convince herself
that this was just a horrible dream. She had to agree with
Orla's recommendations. Nothing less than the full adjustment
programme would do for Larry. She called her brother and asked
him to come to meet her at her office the next morning.

"What's up babe? You know I don't work Sundays", Larry replied,
with more than a hint of anger in his voice.

Larry was at Laura's office at eight o'clock the next morning.
Laura and Orla had been there since early morning and their
plans were well formulated. The background of every company
employee was subject to the most intense research and evaluation
but Laura had made an exception in the case of her brother.
Laura McKenzie was a strict but fair employer and despite being
a hard-nosed business woman, she strongly believed that every
person should be given a second chance. After that, errant
employees were put on the New Beginning Programme or else they
were suitably disposed of.

Laura knew that she had gone out of her way to help her brother
and that he was long past his second chance. Orla had tried to
convince her that nothing less than the full re-adjustment
programme would suffice here and finally, she had to agree.
Laura's personalised company training programme had returned a
complete success rate in the past and there was good reason to
believe that it could haul Larry back from his destructive
lifestyle and help him to repay his debts, both to her and to
society.

"Hi girls. What the fuck are we doing here this time Sunday
morning", Larry snarled as he dragged his feet into the office.

"Sit down dear. We just want to go over some stuff that I missed
out on when I was away", answered Laura.

"Would you like a coffee dear? Orla, get him a coffee. I think
he may need it".

Larry sat with his head bowed in shame as many details of his
past transgressions were played out, some courtesy of the
extensive network of secret company CCTV and some as part of a
powerful slide show that had been carefully compiled from Orla's
research over the last two months. Orla was thorough in her work
and every detail was recorded in one form or another. Everything
was simplified and explained and Larry was given a copy of all
of the damning evidence. There was ample opportunity for him to
ask questions and although he did not like the answers, he could
not complain that he did not have a fair hearing.

"What the fuck am I going to do,?" Larry thought to himself as
he viewed the horrible evidence.

Laura took his hand and hugged him gently. She told him how much
she had been hurt by his actions and how disappointed she was.
There was a hint of a tear in her eyes as she reassured him.

"We can get through this together love. There is no need to
involve the police. Seven to ten years in jail is not going to
do you any good. I love you and I want what is best for both of
us. That's why I want you to sign up for our New Beginning
Programme. Do you think you can do that for me?"

"What the fuck is this fucking new shit programme. You stupid
bitches, who the fuck do you think you're talking to?", Larry
shouted as he became more and more agitated.

"Calm down Lar. It's just one of those weird weekend things
where you have great fun making a complete prat of yourself. I
know you'll love it. You remember Megan, the crazy blond. Well,
she's the instructor."

Wow, did he remember Megan? Over the last couple of months,
Larry had enjoyed just about the most incredible sex of his life
with this blond hothead. She was a demanding and assertive
little bitch but he soon put her in her place. What the hell. A
weekend of fun with Megan. Nothing to lose.

Orla had an uneasy feeling about her employer's long lost
brother from the beginning. Just in case that her female
intuition was right again, she had instructed one of her best
tutors, Ms Megan Richards to initiate the pre-training
programme. Megan soon decided that she would like to personally
process this one, just for her own pleasure.

Larry had been in seventh heaven when he was intimately touched
by Megan. Then, for no reason, he would be denied and ignored a
little. It was just an annoyance at first but over a period of
time, an hour or two turned into long and frustrating days.
Being nice to Megan usually did the trick. It was just that, as
time went on; his good behaviour was not always automatically
rewarded, no matter how much he tried to please. It seemed that
there was more and more work to be done before the rewards were
forthcoming.

Larry was not big on pleading or pleasing but for some reason,
he was now becoming expert at both art forms. Megan had become
like a drug that Larry could not do without and within a short
time, he found himself agreeing with much of what Megan had to
say. He had come to rely on her so much and he would do almost
anything for that soft, feminine touch that followed their rough
and erotic play.

Now, here he was, back in Megan's lair and even his snotty
sister approved. How cool was that?

As soon as Larry walked in the door, he was treated like a king.
Tina, the maid took his coat and handed him a drink. Megan was
soon all over him, ripping off his clothes and smothering him
with her luscious lips. Their game was well known to him by now.
At first, either could be the top and he enjoyed it both ways.
Larry liked it best though when Megan took charge, as he soon
learned that the end reward would be that much better after
being on the receiving end of Megan's playful chastisement. It
was all a bit of harmless fun and Megan would never go near to
where he would have to use the safeword.

Larry's excitement continued to build as the secure blindfold
was wrapped around his head. Megan took him by the hand and
carefully led him down the stone steps to her 'Playroom', as she
liked to call it.

Just like many times before, Larry could feel the cold stones of
the basement floor on the soles of his feet as he was led naked
and blindfolded to the wooden frame in the middle of the room.
He wilfully raised his arms above his head and the leather
restraints were secured around his wrists. Megan kissed him
gently before securing his ankles. Then she removed the
blindfold.

"Larry, this is Tina. She's going to be joining us for a while.
You don't mind, do you love?"

Wow. She has really gone overboard this time, Larry thought to
himself - a threesome with the maid. Larry could not hide his
excitement and his erect cock was already rock hard.

Megan put her lips close to his face as she addressed him.

"The rules are going to be a little different this time
Laurence. Tina and I want to ask you some questions - nothing
really difficult. We do expect honest answers though. Ready to
play pet?"

Tina stood back and eyed him up and down without saying a word.
Something about the look on her face made Larry uneasy as she
stepped forward.

Larry was not at all happy with the questions that Tina was
asking - intimate probing about his business and his personal
life; things that she had no right to know about. He was not
about to put up with this shit. After all, he had come here for
a good time and a damn good shag.

"Piss off you silly bitches. Do you think I'm gonna talk about
that stuff? Go and fuck yourselves", he snapped.

"I am really sorry Lar", Megan replied. "My mistake love. I
should have told you about the new rules. Bad language is not
allowed for a start and I'm afraid that it is punishable by six
of the best for a first offence. Tina, would you mind taking the
cane to his cute little bottom for me please?"

"Meg, nothing would give me greater pleasure", the young woman
replied, as she forcefully flexed her rod.

Tina raised her Perspex cane and brought it down with full force
on Larry's naked ass. Pain exploded through his body and he let
out a soft moan. Although he did not like their new game that
much, he would go along with it. After all, at the end, he would
have them both and he could not wait. Larry bit his lip and kept
the foul words under his breath as five more painful lashes were
delivered by young Tina.

More and more awkward questions followed and Larry was sick of
this new game. Tina would slap his face or spit on him if there
was any hesitation with his answers. She had a foul mouth and
although he really loved her bad language at first, he now found
her put-downs very discomforting. When he really angered her,
his balls were squeezed or he got a painful kick in the ankles
or between the legs.

Megan had talked about how much he liked a little caning and
Tina made sure that she did not spare the rod. Larry knew that
this was definitely "safeword" territory. He had been a good
sport, he thought but the tears in his eyes were real as he
uttered that magical phrase that would lead to his release and
well earned reward.

Tina looked back in disgust as set her cane down on the table
and Megan stepped forward.

"Oh, I'm so sorry Lar. There's no safeword tonight. Don't worry
though. Just answer the questions honestly and you'll be fine
pet. I really don't like it when you're being difficult. You
know I don't like hurting you but you really must do better."

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Act 2 is on the DOMestic blog now at:-

http://u4ds.com/2008/04/a_new_beginning_for_laurence.shtml#c004839

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